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Thread: Northern Ireland and Ireland Stalkers - DEER MANAGEMENT COURSE

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    Northern Ireland and Ireland Stalkers - DEER MANAGEMENT COURSE

    I have had a brief chat with Jelen Deer Services.

    They have mentioned they would run a course here at home if we get 12 people.

    It could be ran in a central location Newry or Enniskillen (centralised for those travelling from North Antrim, Dublin or Galway) and maybe we could tie in with the IDS or BDS to bring an experienced dog handler in to give a brief on breeds, methodology and essential contacts to other organisations how supply stalking, gear or days out tagging/counting deer.

    If you are 100% confident you would attend please clearly state in a reply so numbers can be estimated.

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    Would this be with a view to leading to a qualification or would it just be for general information?

    Also would there be any practical element or would it be classroom based?

    What would the focus be? I'd guess it would be mostly ecology and the like as the legal differences north/south would make that aspect tricky.
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    It would be a Deer Mgt qualification. If we have diFferent legislative requirements in NI \ ROI, it sounds like we need a bespoke course that addresses such issues, allowing those that have passed to work north or south regardless.

    I will contact Jelen to gain more information.

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    you have a PM

    johnnie

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    Hi Ronan,

    If we were to run a course for you guys in Ireland, it would be a bespoke course, but the same course we run in England - The LANTRA approved Deer Managers Course - written and developed by Jelen Deer Services.

    Let me know how many people would wish to do it, and if we (and you) feel it necessary we can schedule a series of courses over the next year.

    Best regards,

    Mike
    (Director - Jelen Deer Services) Jelen Deer

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    Quote Originally Posted by luder View Post
    you have a PM

    johnnie
    I think we've just found a contender to BK's avatar...

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    i was goen to do my dsc 1 soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelendeer View Post
    Hi Ronan,

    If we were to run a course for you guys in Ireland, it would be a bespoke course, but the same course we run in England - The LANTRA approved Deer Managers Course - written and developed by Jelen Deer Services.

    Let me know how many people would wish to do it, and if we (and you) feel it necessary we can schedule a series of courses over the next year.

    Best regards,

    Mike
    (Director - Jelen Deer Services) Jelen Deer
    Hi Mike is your deer managers course similar to the BDS deer managers course, as the one i did last year was a lantre approved 5 day course ?

    regards Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookingfat View Post
    Hi Mike is your deer managers course similar to the BDS deer managers course, as the one i did last year was a lantre approved 5 day course ?

    regards Anthony
    Hi Anthony,

    Our Deer Managers Course is unlike any other similar training course on the market, both in the way it is delivered and the content that is delivered.

    We have become aware of shortfalls in other 'Deer Manager Courses' through feedback from deligates who have attended. The general feeling from most of whom we spoke to were disappointed with the content of other courses, believing that a significant part of it was 'padding' and unnecessary. One subject in particular was the time spent on talking about 'CUSTOM RIFLES' where deligates failed to see the relevance to deer management.

    Another common 'complaint' was the somewhat arrogant attitudes of some (but not all) of the 'instructors', and the patronising manner in which some (but not all) of the lectures were delivered.

    There was also a significant level of customer dissatisfaction in the wake of some courses being cancelled due to insufficient uptake.

    The Jelen Deer Managers Course was written and developed to help learners and prospective deer managers gain the knowledge they NEED to be able to effectively provide a professional service to landowners and foresters. But even to the recreational stalker, the Jelen Deer Managers Course provides a wealth of professionally based knowledge gained in the professional arena.

    It is not my place to knock the long, drawn out 5 day courses, but we (Jelen) feel that the important knowledge needed can be delivered in 3 full days.

    I would not expect anyone who has completed other Deer Manager Courses to want to attend the Jelen one. However, those who are contemplating increasing their knowledge of deer management at professional level would be hard pushed to find a more comprehensive source of information on the entire spectrum of deer management than we can supply at Jelen Deer Services.

    I hope that answers your question.

    Regards,

    Mike.
    (Director - Jelen Deer Services)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelendeer View Post
    Hi Anthony,

    Our Deer Managers Course is unlike any other similar training course on the market, both in the way it is delivered and the content that is delivered.

    We have become aware of shortfalls in other 'Deer Manager Courses' through feedback from deligates who have attended. The general feeling from most of whom we spoke to were disappointed with the content of other courses, believing that a significant part of it was 'padding' and unnecessary. One subject in particular was the time spent on talking about 'CUSTOM RIFLES' where deligates failed to see the relevance to deer management.

    Another common 'complaint' was the somewhat arrogant attitudes of some (but not all) of the 'instructors', and the patronising manner in which some (but not all) of the lectures were delivered.

    There was also a significant level of customer dissatisfaction in the wake of some courses being cancelled due to insufficient uptake.

    The Jelen Deer Managers Course was written and developed to help learners and prospective deer managers gain the knowledge they NEED to be able to effectively provide a professional service to landowners and foresters. But even to the recreational stalker, the Jelen Deer Managers Course provides a wealth of professionally based knowledge gained in the professional arena.

    It is not my place to knock the long, drawn out 5 day courses, but we (Jelen) feel that the important knowledge needed can be delivered in 3 full days.

    I would not expect anyone who has completed other Deer Manager Courses to want to attend the Jelen one. However, those who are contemplating increasing their knowledge of deer management at professional level would be hard pushed to find a more comprehensive source of information on the entire spectrum of deer management than we can supply at Jelen Deer Services.

    I hope that answers your question.

    Regards,

    Mike.
    (Director - Jelen Deer Services)
    Thanks Mike,

    there is a lot of truth in what you say, particularly the bit about some of the instructors attitudes.

    The part about deer dogs and tracking wounded deer was a joke.

    not sure if it could be condensed into three days even with the bit about custom rifles taken out.

    anyway good luck and all the best for your courses in 2013.

    Anthony
    Last edited by cookingfat; 20-01-2013 at 11:16.

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