jontie3332
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sent licence of 12 weeks ago still not got it back anyone else having this problem with west midland police
Try telling Gloucestershire that. I've submitted variations in the past without enclosing my ticket, within days I'll have a phonecall or a letter stating that nothing will be done until I get my ticket to them. Me offering to swap on day of issue of replacement has always been rejected.they dont need the actual FAC
sent licence of 12 weeks ago still not got it back anyone else having this problem with west midland police
they just dont care they are currently merging with stafford and only have three people in the office i sent it in for variation for .308 for deer and bore with covering land permission form with the cheque and i phone and phone and they say its being processed its a nightmare just want it back now as i am down to my last 6 foxing rounds and .243 is limited also i might speak to local rfd who i no well they can proberly call them as guy above said
OK . This thread has drifted onto enclosure of old FAC with renewal/variation applications, but to answer your question there's no way of getting an RFD to issue ammo without production of a valid FAC. He has a legal responsibility to record the transaction on it.
one more reason to reload I guess.
they do.I'm pretty sure L&B will accept a phone call from a verified RFD and permit him to issue/sell ammo over the phone.
There is.
as above. They don't sign it. it is not a legal document but a register of who and what (rfd number and ammo quantity)
There is no issue with who fills in the FAC and if the FLO has been ignorant enough to take you only physical proof that you have an FAC then they have a duty to fill it in when the RFD calls
they do.
even from outside L&B, I bought ammo in Northumberland and they rang L&B who added the allowance to the system.
when my new variation came through the ammo was not on it (as it was entered onto the system like all historical ammo bought is and cleared off the paper copy)
OK . This thread has drifted onto enclosure of old FAC with renewal/variation applications, but to answer your question there's no way of getting an RFD to issue ammo without production of a valid FAC. He has a legal responsibility to record the transaction on it.
One more reason to reload I guess.
An rfd doesnt have to record on the fac although there is a responsibility TO SEE the ticket and record the transaction on his/her register which means the details must be taken from it. I could not see Northumbria allowing ammo to be issued based on a call. These points are not exact of course and will depend on the authority.
As for the fac being late perhaps its time to engage BASC or a letter to your Chief of Police
sent licence of 12 weeks ago still not got it back anyone else having this problem with west midland police
You got me thinking. I'm not an RFD, so have checked the entry requirements today with 2 RFD's in Cambs.
They're obliged to enter all issues of ammo and Expanding bullets on the FAC so need to have it. This is so that an FAC Holder can't buy more than the number of rounds (or x hundred 'Expanding Missiles' for which a separate allocation is made in Cambs.) than is authorised on the FAC.
It's obvious they'll need a contiguous history of all issues from the previous entries - or they couldn't do this.
It's obvious they'll need a contiguous history of all issues from the previous entries - or they couldn't do this.
Agree. Your holding limit will always be more than what you can buy at any one time, so you could fire off your full "buy at one time" allowance twice in a day, and STILL not have bought your holding limit even with those 2 events combined. What's to stop you visiting 2 or 3 RFDs during the day and claim that you've just shot the previous purchase...? That's your call, but if Plod rock up asking questions, you'd better have a bl**dy good answer as to why you have so much ammo in your safe!!! Cheers i.Don't know what you mean by that? You don't record use. There is noting to say you can't go into your RFD at 9am and buy your full ammo allowance, shoot it my dinnertime, go back buy your full allowance again, shoot it off in the afternoon and then go back in before closing to buy your full holding again. It's only you in bother if you have too much ammo, not the RFD.