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    Permissions, if you don't ask you don't get.

    Hi All,
    I often hear fellow deer stalkers complaining that no land is available anymore for stalking, well it just isn't the case.
    I picked up a new farm last year by recommendation, 500+ acres.
    But i have had my eye on an area for some time, only 100 acres but steep valleys (typical Devon!) surrounded by woodland, and made tentative enquiries without approaching the farmer directly, the same answer kept coming back, 'oh deer stalker ..... has shot there for years', but i had never heard any shots or seen any other stalkers on the land.
    So i was driving past the farm this week and saw the farmer working, got chatting and asked the question, 'does anyone control the deer on your farm?' i was very surprised when the answer came back, 'nope, we stopped the other stalker coming nearly 10 years ago (i didn't ask why), do you want to shoot my deer?' so i guess you know what my answer was!
    So don't despair, there are still farms out there with nobody stalking, just ask!
    Cheers
    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by devon deer stalker View Post
    Hi All,
    I often hear fellow deer stalkers complaining that no land is available anymore for stalking, well it just isn't the case.
    I picked up a new farm last year by recommendation, 500+ acres.
    But i have had my eye on an area for some time, only 100 acres but steep valleys (typical Devon!) surrounded by woodland, and made tentative enquiries without approaching the farmer directly, the same answer kept coming back, 'oh deer stalker ..... has shot there for years', but i had never heard any shots or seen any other stalkers on the land.
    So i was driving past the farm this week and saw the farmer working, got chatting and asked the question, 'does anyone control the deer on your farm?' i was very surprised when the answer came back, 'nope, we stopped the other stalker coming nearly 10 years ago (i didn't ask why), do you want to shoot my deer?' so i guess you know what my answer was!
    So don't despair, there are still farms out there with nobody stalking, just ask!
    Cheers
    Richard
    I have the same experience, farmers telling me that nobody has ever asked them for permission to shoot on their land.
    As a novice stalker I am quite happy with land which may not hold that much deer but gives me the opportunity to get some experience. And for free.
    One thing leads to another and before you know you get an introduction to the neighbours.
    And than there are farms/estates that have been 'managed' by a stalker who has taken on so much land that he can't cope and never shows up.
    An approach now may not result in permission now, but may be productive in one or two years time...
    For example I went to see a farmer who owns a large woodland opposite my house and left all my details, never heard from him again. However a year later I got a call and an invite to join his professional pest controller for a few outings.
    Tenacity pays off.... Slowly slowly catchy monkey.

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    Another fellow stalker off here, just picked up 1000acres in Cornwall , just for the asking

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    I just picked up rabbiting permission on 350 acres. On the way out was asked if I am licenced to shoot deer?? happy days. Getting rabbits or foxes is a good way to get your foot in the door.
    ​Atb Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    Another fellow stalker off here, just picked up 1000acres in Cornwall , just for the asking
    Well that's a bit of rarity, most of the ground down here is either
    A) sewn up tight
    or
    B) every Tom Dick and Harry shoots it
    or
    C)crap ground with nothing much on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo8 View Post
    Well that's a bit of rarity, most of the ground down here is either
    A) sewn up tight
    or
    B) every Tom Dick and Harry shoots it
    or
    C)crap ground with nothing much on it
    That's what i'm saying, you might assume its sewn up but just occasionally it isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    Another fellow stalker off here, just picked up 1000acres in Cornwall , just for the asking
    Blimey, that must be half of Cornwall!

    Cheers

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by devon deer stalker View Post
    Hi All,
    I often hear fellow deer stalkers complaining that no land is available anymore for stalking, well it just isn't the case.
    I picked up a new farm last year by recommendation, 500+ acres.
    But i have had my eye on an area for some time, only 100 acres but steep valleys (typical Devon!) surrounded by woodland, and made tentative enquiries without approaching the farmer directly, the same answer kept coming back, 'oh deer stalker ..... has shot there for years', but i had never heard any shots or seen any other stalkers on the land.
    So i was driving past the farm this week and saw the farmer working, got chatting and asked the question, 'does anyone control the deer on your farm?' i was very surprised when the answer came back, 'nope, we stopped the other stalker coming nearly 10 years ago (i didn't ask why), do you want to shoot my deer?' so i guess you know what my answer was!
    So don't despair, there are still farms out there with nobody stalking, just ask!
    Cheers
    Richard
    Totally true as if you don' ask you wont get. I do beleive now that there is a large portion of luck involved and money is starting to talk more and more as farmers etc.. are soon learning how big and a cry for help/ land is required out there. I'n all's honesty if I clearly hand the 'sssssss i would say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeman View Post
    Totally true as if you don' ask you wont get. I do beleive now that there is a large portion of luck involved and money is starting to talk more and more as farmers etc.. are soon learning how big and a cry for help/ land is required out there. I'n all's honesty if I clearly hand the 'sssssss i would say no.
    Weeman, sorry i didnt make that clear, no money changed hands, but i always look after the farmers whose land i shoot over one way or another, i treat people as i would like to be treated in their position.
    Cheers
    Richard

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    If the was ever a time to ask, it would be now.
    It seams to be on the telly every day, a door won't open if you don't knock on it.

    ​Good luck
    Your a long time dead..GET OUT THERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devon deer stalker View Post
    Weeman, sorry i didnt make that clear, no money changed hands, but i always look after the farmers whose land i shoot over one way or another, i treat people as i would like to be treated in their position.
    Cheers
    Richard
    I'm not saying you did mate and I'm sure like all we always look after the folk that give. Its just those who do charge are puttings fees up.

    A little while back a stalker who I don't know offered 10 % to the farmer more than what my mate was paying, but pleaseingly the farmer declined as he didn't like his attitude and isn't money motivated.

    I was offered a place in a small syndicate few years back, it contained four stalkers with lucky to take 4 roe each, I averaged it out due to the terrain etc 1 roe in four visits each, we was quoted off the land owner 2500 = 625 a pieace and he wanted the carcasses but we had first refusal to purchase them. I worked it out as I'm tight as cramp includeing fuel etc work out around 250 ish with several trips etc for the price of each roe taken excludeing purchase of carcass. None of us took him up on the offer.

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