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    First deer rifle. Calibre and set up?

    Hi all,

    Apologies for yet another newbie looking for advice on his first rifle but here are my requirements.

    I'm about to apply for my FAC so not a calibre that will scare the FAO. I have DSC1 and some ground to shoot over but not much rifle experience. Bisley is on my doorstep so intend to join and get some target experience once I've got my ticket. Also have an experienced stalker willing to give me some pointers.

    Anyhoo, looking for a 'one rifle' set up for 1000 which will do for roe, fallow and red. Occasional fox & bunnies.

    Unlikely to get into reloading anytime soon so ammunition and parts that are easy to come by.

    I was thinking 350 for rifle and 400 scope leaving 200 for moderator and bipod. If I can't get a complete second hand package what bits should I keep an eye out for

    Suggestions for bullets to go with your calibre for the above quarry also appreciated

    Look forward to your thoughts.

    RR
    Last edited by RedRanger; 17-04-2013 at 20:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRanger View Post
    Hi all,

    Apologies for yet another newbie looking for advice on his first rifle but here are my requirements.

    I'm about to apply for my FAC so not a calibre that will scare the FAO. I have DSC1 and some ground to shoot over but not much rifle experience. Bisley is on my doorstep so intend to join and get some target experience once I've got my ticket. Also have an experienced stalker willing to give me some pointers.

    Anyhoo, looking for a 'one rifle' set up for 1000 which will do for roe, fallow and red. Occasional fox & bunnies.

    Unlikely to get into reloading anytime soon so ammunition and parts that are easy to come by.

    I was thinking 350 for rifle and 400 scope leaving 200 for moderator and bipod. If I can't get a complete second hand package what bits should I keep an eye out for

    Look forward to your thoughts.

    RR
    The 25-06 takes some beating. As for which rifle etc well your about to find out how personal tastes differ in everything inc calibre.

    Nutty

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    try for 6.5x55 cal. good in betweener.
    have you held or had much past experiance with rifle or held a FAC before, not sure on what size the FLO would issue.
    atb
    simon

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    6.5 swede or 308 buy once, do the job right ( if your licencing dept approves ) good variety of ammo 70-180gr & easy reloading. ase or dm80 suppressor & simmons scope ,bargains can be had.
    I plink 100gr in the 308 from bunny to fox by downloading .
    Last edited by Lord muck; 17-04-2013 at 21:30.

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    +1 for 308, good on the range too

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    Have you looked at the howa complete packages for 899 you get rifle, scope mod and bipod. Surely worth considering. I know they do them in 243 not sure about 308.

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    Howa complete set up is a good idea. They do do .308.

    As you're looking for a good s/h outfit can I suggest you don't get fixated on one calibre or make and instead look out for the following:

    Calibers suitable for fox, roe, fallow, red that are common and easy(ish) to get ammo easily and at a good price:
    - 25-06
    - 6.5x55 swede
    - 7mm-08
    - 308
    - 30-06

    Reliable rifle makes likely to be in budget:
    - howa
    - cz
    - Parker hale
    - tikka
    - sako
    - steyr manlicher

    308 takes some beating but that's just my preference. For fox and roe I prefer my .243 sako 85.

    scope wise just a Burris, bushnell or leupold will do - scopes can be upgraded anytime without a variation so don't worry too much as long as its reliable.

    mod wise ASE are sturdy, as are MAE/PES. Mods are nice but they're really only to save your ears and they all do that... So for me it's about size and weight and how they look.

    Good luck and have fun!

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    With Bisley on your doorstep and not being interested in reloading and considering possible reds the obvious answer as regards calibre has to be .308win.
    For you to choose any other calibre would be just silly. That's not to say that .308w is any better or worse than any other calibre just that it is the obvious conclusion. This calibre certainly won't raise any eyebrows with your FEO as it is a well recognised deer calibre.

    As regards rifle if you are going to be using it for occasional target shooting in addition to stalking you will need to get a rifle with a medium to heavy weight (varmint) barrel. You don't want a light weight barrel because that will heat up too quickly when target shooting, and you don't want a very long target barrel because that will be too heavy and awkward when stalking. You may be struggling to get anything decent within your budget but it is worth a try. Personally I would be looking for something like a second hand Howa varmint in a laminated stock but that's only a suggestion as there are many good rifles out there it's just a matter of how much you are prepared to pay.

    Scopes again are a easy one. Look for a second hand fixed power scope in 6,7 or 8 power made by Meopta, Leupold, Doctor or Schmidt & Bender. Scopes like this come up regularly in the classified ads on this site. With any of these makes you won't go wrong. There are a couple of other makes to consider but they will probably be out of your price range if they are any good.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Hi there, you could opt for a 7x57mm Mauser or a 260Rem (6.5/ 308) either would be fine

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    The problem that he could have is ammunition availability in this country with some calibres Pecar. Nothing wrong with any of the fine cartridges that you mention but availability of ammo would be awkward and at a price if he doesn't reload, particularly with regard to .280rem. We also have rules that mean you can't use expanding ammunition for target shooting, and Bisley can be quite kean on this. Yes I know crazy but still the law.

    One of the benefits of choosing .308w is that it is readily available, available in non expanding FMJ, and that cheap cooking quality ex military is sometimes available at reasonable cost for target shooting.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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