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    17 Remington christened

    Well we managed to get out and christen the new rifle with a couple of nice Foxes. 1 at 180 yards which was a head shot and 2nd at 150 in the engine room. Surprisingly the round did exit but it was a small fox. Very accurate little round.
    Last edited by 204 Ruger; 29-04-2013 at 19:23.

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    I think this is a much underrated calibre. You handloading or factory stuff? Flat out or underloaded? Just curious as I run a 22-250 and wonder about chopping the 17HMR in for something better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkingsnake View Post
    I think this is a much underrated calibre. You handloading or factory stuff? Flat out or underloaded? Just curious as I run a 22-250 and wonder about chopping the 17HMR in for something better.

    Yes hand loading for it, I posted the development info below in the loading section. I have a 204 for dedicated NV and had this made for day use mainly but night use also.


    ​As mentioned in another thread ive had a semi custom 17 Rem made by Neil M. I managed to get out for a few hours yesterday in the heavy winds!!!!. Tested the loads on the Chrony first(with safety glasses on!!!!). Results as follows:


    Remmy brass trimmed to 1.790", CCI BR4 primers, 25g Vmax bullets, OAL 2.249" (10 thou off lands),




    21g N133: 3787ft/sec, 3794 ft/sec, 3780 ft/sec. Average: 3787 ft/sec
    21.5g N133: 3941ft/sec, 3953ft/sec, 3959 ft/sec. Average: 3951 ft/sec
    21.7g N133( stated as max load), 3958 ft/sec, 3987 ft/sec, 3974 ft/sec.Average: 3973 ft/sec
    22g N133 3994 ft/sec, 3989 ft/sec, 3968 ft/sec. Average: 3983 ft/sec
    22.2g N133: 4032 ft/sec, 4016 ft/sec, 4026 ft/sc. Average: 4024 ft/sec
    22.5g N133: 4041 ft/sec, 4046 ft/sec, 4061 ft/sec. Average: 4049 ft/sec
    22.8g N133: 4122 ft/sec, 4104 ft/sec, 4112 ft/sec. Average: 4113 ft/sec
    23g N133: 4142 ft/sec, 4222 ft/sec, 4187 ft/sec. Average: 4184 ft/sec.......HOT HOT HOT




    I realise I've pushed the limits here so please don't try this unless you have taken precautions like I did. I never had any pressure signs what so ever, I've even taken out all of the primers and checked inside for stress, again no issues. I'll check hem again IF the weather gets warmer but recon ill stop at 23g . The HOT HOT HOT loads grouped really well(5 shots inside 1cm with 3 of them in one elongated hole) considering the wind was blowing the hell out of me but I ran out of them to check at 200 yards. I did however have more of the 21.5 grain loads so shot them at 200 and got sub 1 inch which I was happy with considering the wind. I'll test it properly on a better day and recon it will be very tight at 200 yards.

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    Good job! How does the nv ( is it a 14 ) work with the zeiss ??
    ​atb Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by 204 Ruger View Post
    I'll test it properly on a better day and recon it will be very tight at 200 yards.
    Best of luck with the test. Data from Viht or elsewhere? I found that they'd changed their 22-250 loading data quite a bit from the 2nd Edition book out to the published data sheets...down about 3 grains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 204 Ruger View Post
    Well we managed to get out and christen the new rifle with a couple of nice Foxes. 1 at 180 yards which was a head shot and 2nd at 150 in the engine room. Surprisingly the round did exit but it was a small fox. Ver accurate little round.
    Ace - well done! My mate and I were talking to a farmer last night by a gate in front of his house. While we were chatting, I scanned around with the NV mono every now and then - suddenly a fox appeared at about 120 yards out. We'd seen it earlier, but as it'd headed off away from us we'd left it for another night. It must, however, have been spooked by the three numpties who were lamping further down the valley, as it'd looped around and come back up the hill. I put a .204 round in its chest, and it was game over. The farmer was well impressed - at least he was with me. Not so with the three lampers though, because in spite of being warned off before, they'd strayed over the boundary onto his land again...


    Quote Originally Posted by Barkingsnake View Post
    Best of luck with the test. Data from Viht or elsewhere? I found that they'd changed their 22-250 loading data quite a bit from the 2nd Edition book out to the published data sheets...down about 3 grains.
    Yes, I found out about this too. But only after the powder had blown my beloved .22-250 Sauer apart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barkingsnake View Post
    Best of luck with the test. Data from Viht or elsewhere? I found that they'd changed their 22-250 loading data quite a bit from the 2nd Edition book out to the published data sheets...down about 3 grains.
    I got the basic load info from a chap on reloaders nest and cross referenced it with a coule of other home loaders. I also contacted Biht directly but they had no info for this powder with the .17Rem. So I worked up the loads to the suggested max and beyond to ge Tito 4200 fps. I have had great results with every load so far but have made more to fully test the loads at 4000 fps, 4100fps and 4200fps, hoping to test them tomorrow on paper. The 2 foxes that I shot dropped to 25g loads flying at 4000 fps and as you can see neither we're too concerned about the drop in speed. I'm not just using them on foxes so want to get a half inch group at 200 (my .204 produced. 1cm group at 200) then I know i have the perfect load for 400+ yard crows. Barrel wear between 4k and 4.2k ? Probably t much difference the risk however is a pressure spike if the loads warm up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SussexFallow View Post
    Good job! How does the nv ( is it a 14 ) work with the zeiss ??
    ​atb Steve
    ​PM sent

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    I use 21.5 grains off N133 with a 25 grain v max bullets with awesome results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy_SP View Post
    Yes, I found out about this too. But only after the powder had blown my beloved .22-250 Sauer apart...
    I use moly'd bullets and found that I needed to drop about 1 grain for the same speed.
    I've a new tub (2011) and will be very careful...

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