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    444 marlin

    im just doing some home work , and before i commit to a variation with the rozzers im looking for reloading supplies brass , bullets etc can any one poke me in the right direction ?

    already tried midway uk the their out of stock full stop and no back order .

    already found a heap of 45-70 gov kit so that might be another option .

    ​cheers lee
    Last edited by leec6.5; 01-05-2013 at 12:06.

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    The 45 70 would be a wise choice over the 444.

    Cheers Sharkey

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    Wilson & Wilson have .444 brass @57 per 100
    Edgar bros have Hornady 265 gr bullets 35 per 100
    cast bullets around 45 per 1000
    Easy peasy

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    Being one who's spent a great amount of time and a bit more then a good deal of money messing with lever actions in 444 Marlin , 45-70 and 450 Marlin I'll give you my ideas on the subject !

    First off let me say I think the better choice for big stuff like say Kodiak Brown Bear would be the 45-70 or the 450 Marlin . They can pretty much be handloaded the same . It is also a heck of alot easier to get bigger bullets shooting well in the 45-70 or 450 Marlin then it is to get the biggies shooting in the 444 .

    I've sent a goodly amount of 550 grain cast bullets down range in a couple Marlin 1895 45-70's with very nice results . Now on the other hand for live animals I would not call this a 300 yard round while using the 550 grainers . If however you back up a bit and use a 350 grain cast then 250 or so yards isn't out of the realm for living animals .

    A 444 with cast bullets can be made to handle up to maybe 425 grains , As long as one has one of the ballard 1-20 rifled guns . If you have an older 444 with the Micro 1-38 rifling about the heaviest I've been able to do was 375 grains cast .

    For jacketed the 45-70 with the Swift 350 A Frame or the 444 Marlin with the Swift 280 or 300 grain A Frame are hard to beat !

    Think over the last 13 or so years I've messed with 3 rifles chambered for the 450 Marlin , 7 Marlin's chambered for the 45-70 and I think 30 Marlin's and one H&R Handi chambered for the 444 .

    As I said earlier for killing bigger mean beasties I still think the 45-70/450 Marlin the better choice and between those certainly 45-70 brass is easier to come by here (in the USA) and certainly that can be said in the UK !
    Now for pure fun of shooting paper with cast bullets and hunting nothing bigger then say a large black bear or an interior Grizzly I think the 444 is fine . Incidently of the Black Bear I've taken in my lifetime all were killed with a 444 lever rifle shooting one of my home cast bullets of 340 grains or heavier !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pt-sika View Post
    Being one who's spent a great amount of time and a bit more then a good deal of money messing with lever actions in 444 Marlin , 45-70 and 450 Marlin I'll give you my ideas on the subject !

    First off let me say I think the better choice for big stuff like say Kodiak Brown Bear would be the 45-70 or the 450 Marlin . They can pretty much be handloaded the same . It is also a heck of alot easier to get bigger bullets shooting well in the 45-70 or 450 Marlin then it is to get the biggies shooting in the 444 .

    I've sent a goodly amount of 550 grain cast bullets down range in a couple Marlin 1895 45-70's with very nice results . Now on the other hand for live animals I would not call this a 300 yard round while using the 550 grainers . If however you back up a bit and use a 350 grain cast then 250 or so yards isn't out of the realm for living animals .

    A 444 with cast bullets can be made to handle up to maybe 425 grains , As long as one has one of the ballard 1-20 rifled guns . If you have an older 444 with the Micro 1-38 rifling about the heaviest I've been able to do was 375 grains cast .

    For jacketed the 45-70 with the Swift 350 A Frame or the 444 Marlin with the Swift 280 or 300 grain A Frame are hard to beat !

    Think over the last 13 or so years I've messed with 3 rifles chambered for the 450 Marlin , 7 Marlin's chambered for the 45-70 and I think 30 Marlin's and one H&R Handi chambered for the 444 .

    As I said earlier for killing bigger mean beasties I still think the 45-70/450 Marlin the better choice and between those certainly 45-70 brass is easier to come by here (in the USA) and certainly that can be said in the UK !
    Now for pure fun of shooting paper with cast bullets and hunting nothing bigger then say a large black bear or an interior Grizzly I think the 444 is fine . Incidently of the Black Bear I've taken in my lifetime all were killed with a 444 lever rifle shooting one of my home cast bullets of 340 grains or heavier !
    thanks for the wise words , all food for thought !

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    Quote Originally Posted by leec6.5 View Post
    thanks for the wise words , all food for thought !
    Your welcome ! Also bear in mind for the last 6 or 7 years I've shot cast exclusively in the 444 and 45-70 . Before that I had rifles for both cartridges set up for cast and others for jacketed . Nosler used to make a very good 300 grain Partition for the 45-70 and a pretty darn good 250 Partition for 44 cals and I used them both a good bit before they stopped making them . When they stopped that kind pushed me to cast exclusively . For stuff up to day Red Stag you should be fine with the Hornady 265 in the 444 and the Hornady 350 in the 45-70 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by leec6.5 View Post
    im just doing some home work , and before i commit to a variation with the rozzers im looking for reloading supplies brass , bullets etc can any one poke me in the right direction ?

    already tried midway uk the their out of stock full stop and no back order .

    already found a heap of 45-70 gov kit so that might be another option .

    ​cheers lee
    I have a .444 Marlin but FA in D&C wont let me use it for stalking , even though I have an open ticket for .308 and 7.62 , to slow in Scotland I think even though it can produce a ME of over 3000 ft lbs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johno100 View Post
    I have a .444 Marlin but FA in D&C wont let me use it for stalking , even though I have an open ticket for .308 and 7.62 , to slow in Scotland I think even though it can produce a ME of over 3000 ft lbs .
    I have my .444 for Deerstalking and for fox, pest and vermin on my Fac
    bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by reiver View Post
    I have my .444 for Deerstalking and for fox, pest and vermin on my Fac
    bob
    I intend writing to Devon and Cornwall firearms admin regarding this , any suggestions as to who would give me a covering letter to confirm a .444 is a suitable calibre?

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    just thaught i would ask in here rather than starting another thread but having been looking at a lever action for a while now the winchester or marlins seem hard to come by what are the rossi rifles and the armi san marco levers like are they any good ? atb wayne

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