countrryboy
Well-Known Member
Alright folks, 1 for the arborists, woodcutters, hedgelayers or gardeners
Over the past few years doing a bit of copice managment and also trying to 'Lay' some prob 30yr old willow and birch (generally 4-12" across butt and 20-30+ft tall) the idea being that if i lay a big tree should get 30ft of instant hedge/windbreak the way windblow trees grow.
At the moment i'm making it up as i go along and not really sure which is the best way, i generally manage to leave the 'hinge' intact so the tree's do grow and do wot i wanted them to do but the butt's/cut looks bloody ugly, and just wondering if there is a correct way off doing it. I have looked at layed hedges and tried to do similar cut's but the size and wieght of the trees isn't helping.
The 2 ways i found found to work best are sort off oppisate off each other
1st way gub to the front but very open ie both top and bottom cut at an angle up/down, well throu the tree probably 3/4- 4/5 ish throu, looks quite tidy when i get it right but if the top/bottom's meet obivously the hings breaks which is exactly wot i don't want, on the bigger stuff been boring a flat face in to try an stop this but sometimes hinge breaks no matter even if gub not closed out. Basically folding the tree down to for a closed hinge/scar
2nd way i've been doing it is either just a simple back cut or gub cut in back off the tree and pushing it over sort of 'barbers chair' type fashion as top end of cut kicks out, basically the oppisate folding tree to form an open hinge type scar. Looks bloody horrible but seems to work more often keeping the tree attached to the stump
I was wondering if anyone has tried laying on such tall/old timber before and if there is an easy way that i have not thought off. (I should mibee say got a few saw/climbing tickets and reasonablly exp working with saws commercially just not had to do something like this afore)
I also have some sikta to tidy up/climb/fell on a flushing point of a drive and would be ideal if i could find a way to lay the to to keep flushing cover green, trees prob 30+yr old but poor quality,prob around 10-18" at butt, if no ideas might actually try cutting some roots and dragging over with pick up
Cheers in advance
Over the past few years doing a bit of copice managment and also trying to 'Lay' some prob 30yr old willow and birch (generally 4-12" across butt and 20-30+ft tall) the idea being that if i lay a big tree should get 30ft of instant hedge/windbreak the way windblow trees grow.
At the moment i'm making it up as i go along and not really sure which is the best way, i generally manage to leave the 'hinge' intact so the tree's do grow and do wot i wanted them to do but the butt's/cut looks bloody ugly, and just wondering if there is a correct way off doing it. I have looked at layed hedges and tried to do similar cut's but the size and wieght of the trees isn't helping.
The 2 ways i found found to work best are sort off oppisate off each other
1st way gub to the front but very open ie both top and bottom cut at an angle up/down, well throu the tree probably 3/4- 4/5 ish throu, looks quite tidy when i get it right but if the top/bottom's meet obivously the hings breaks which is exactly wot i don't want, on the bigger stuff been boring a flat face in to try an stop this but sometimes hinge breaks no matter even if gub not closed out. Basically folding the tree down to for a closed hinge/scar
2nd way i've been doing it is either just a simple back cut or gub cut in back off the tree and pushing it over sort of 'barbers chair' type fashion as top end of cut kicks out, basically the oppisate folding tree to form an open hinge type scar. Looks bloody horrible but seems to work more often keeping the tree attached to the stump
I was wondering if anyone has tried laying on such tall/old timber before and if there is an easy way that i have not thought off. (I should mibee say got a few saw/climbing tickets and reasonablly exp working with saws commercially just not had to do something like this afore)
I also have some sikta to tidy up/climb/fell on a flushing point of a drive and would be ideal if i could find a way to lay the to to keep flushing cover green, trees prob 30+yr old but poor quality,prob around 10-18" at butt, if no ideas might actually try cutting some roots and dragging over with pick up
Cheers in advance