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    Question New rifle 308

    Right chaps in getting a new rifle tika t3 super varmint ! So need your experience on which ammo will do the best Job on large woodland reds ???? Any info greatly appreciated both factory and reloads ESP bullet weights ???? Cheers David

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    hornady 150sst bullet / OAL 2.820 /45 grains vit 150 powder/ federal magnum primer

    they wont like that

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    170 - 180grn partitions will do a great job if your twist rate works.
    Slow and heavy for shots at closer range through bush is the way to go. Puts animals down fast with little meat damage.
    Also look at Barnes and Norma Oryx

    ​Trucraft.

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    I've recently started using 150 grain Nosler Partitions in my 308W. Almost all of the deer I shoot are sika in forestry and they have a reputation for running but the Partition is the only bullet I've used that sometimes puts them straight down. I've only shot one red, a hind with them, and she went down so fast the stalker thought I'd shot her in the head. I'm shooting the Partitions at about 2700fps.

    The 150 grain Federal Power Shok factory ammo also worked well for me but didn't put them down as well as the home loaded Partitions.

    My "old" deer load was a 150 grain Hornady Spire Point at 3000fps. Despite moving along, being very accurate and always getting an exit these never put sika straight down, though they always killed anything I shot with them and I would consider that they performed well.

    In the end almost any reasonable 308 deer load is going to kill even the biggest red stag unless you mess up on the aiming and if you ask 100 people you will get 100 answers so you just need to find what you have confidence in. I think confidence is a much bigger factor than anything else so given that it is worth going with your "gut feeling" on what you think will work best. I have confidence in the Partitions and they work well for me but if you don't fancy them then don't even bother with them and go with whatever it is that does take your fancy.
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    I know didn't ask for this comment, but a varmint style rifle is a poor choice for a woodland rifle.

    ​You really should re think that decision.
    Brian.

    Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret_Dabbler View Post
    I know didn't ask for this comment, but a varmint style rifle is a poor choice for a woodland rifle.

    ​You really should re think that decision.
    Is that on account of the weight, Brian, or other factors? I m interested because I am limbering up to buy a .308 and barrel choice is something I am agonising over. Sure you don't need heat dissipation to be optimised in deerstalking, but then I read heavy and short = more accurate, and then what if I decide I want to do lots of range work?

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    2 p worth
    308 T3 tack same barrel 1x18 screwcut +mod is one V HEAVY rifle unless you are popeye i would re-think it for stakling
    i had the above as a range gun very good
    but i have asako 85 ss for stalking

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    I shoot sako 85 laminated stainless varmint which should have similar barrels. It likes 150gr Hrnady SST with vit N140 43.5gr and standard CCI primers. I use a comparator so COAL is 2.195 which is 40 thou off the lands. Sub 0.5 inch groups at 100yds, set at 1 inch up at 100yds have point blank shooting out to 200yds where the drop is only 2.2 inches.

    hope this helps

    ​BE

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotuseater View Post
    Is that on account of the weight, Brian, or other factors? I m interested because I am limbering up to buy a .308 and barrel choice is something I am agonising over. Sure you don't need heat dissipation to be optimised in deerstalking, but then I read heavy and short = more accurate, and then what if I decide I want to do lots of range work?
    Lotus Eater, short and heavy generally does mean accurate, but short and light can be just as accurate.

    Varmint rifles tend to be long and heavy, and a moderator makes them even longer and heavier. A woodland rifle needs to be short, easy and quick to handle and bring into to action from slung over your shoulder.

    I think a lot of us have lost sight of the idea of "handiness" a poor description, but I would want a woodland rifle to handle as much like a nice shotgun as possible - this means as compact as possible with a very light moderator.

    If you decide you want to do lots of range work, then one rifle is a compromise, make the compromise based on what aspect will be most frequently used - range or woods. If it is the range, then short and heavy may be the answer for you.
    Brian.

    Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you......

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    Thanks for that Brian. I shall be stalking in lowlands and occasional foray to the Highlands. Will get a suitable rifle for that, and buy a range rifle later if really needed.

    ​Adrian

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