.270 vs .25-06

sako85

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As above really, looking to get another calibre and will be used for everything from Muntjac to woodland Reds in due course.

Reckon i favour the .270 but have been offered a cheap Sako 75 in .25-06 and the dealer selling it uses the calibre himself and rates it very highly.

Experiences and honest views anyone? What has the most lazer like trajectory at 250 yards?

Thanks
 
Get a 270. With 150 grain bullets you can sight in 3" high at 100 and be within a couple inches of spot on at 250.~Muir
 
I shoot .270 and I love it, 130grainers just under 3000fps work a treat for me.

130 grain gameking in the .270 zeroed at 100 shoots 2.8" low at 200 and 10.7" low at 300.

110 grain barnes TSX in the .270 zeroed at 100 shoots 2.1" low at 200 and 8.4" low at 300.

25-06 rem with a 117grain gameking zeroed at 100 will shoot 3" low at 200 and 11" low at 300.

25-06 rem with 100grain barnes TSX zeroed at 100 shoots 2.4" low at 200 and 9.4" low at 300.

This is all factory data from Federals website but, it gives you an idea.

Only problem with 25-06 is getting good ammo at a reasonable cost if your not reloading, having said that getting decent brass can be a ball ache too.

ATB
Moses
 
I must agree, there is some very reasonable ammo about for the .270. I use PRVI Partizan 130 grain, very flat, very accurate. little recoil and I buy at £48 per 100. My .270 is my "all rounder" for the UK
 
I use a 270 with priv amo and my mate has a 25.06 all i can say mine likes the amo and the bullet drop is managable reds out to 385 yards.
my mate has full confidence in his 25.06 now but has had to find a round it likes go for the 270 :D

wayne
amberdog
 
walk into any gunshop, ask for either 270 or 25-06, see which is most readily available. I've taken mine to Africa, took Kudu to warthog with no problems and could have sourced 270 rounds if needed. Not likely with 25-06 in either situation above. deerwarden ;)
 
Muir said:
Get a 270. With 150 grain bullets you can sight in 3" high at 100 and be within a couple inches of spot on at 250.~Muir


Shows how little Muir really knows!

Zero a 25-06 at 1.25" high at 100m and you be spot on at 200m and about 2" low at 300m

Get the 25-06 you will not regret it
 
..... how little muir really knows?????

Stand Buck said:
Muir said:
Get a 270. With 150 grain bullets you can sight in 3" high at 100 and be within a couple inches of spot on at 250.~Muir


Shows how little Muir really knows!

Zero a 25-06 at 1.25" high at 100m and you be spot on at 200m and about 2" low at 300m

Get the 25-06 you will not regret it

are we sure about that figure at 300 yards? a drop of 3.25 inches from a 100 yard zero rifle at 300 yards?

don't think so
 
I thought Muir's data was about right.
Stand buck what loads are you using? Even a 85 grainer has more drop.

I would tend to a 270. 130gr if one wants flat and 150 if power.
Seen speeds drop way down on a 25-06 with a short barrel.
edi
 
Re: ..... how little muir really knows?????

ruki said:
Stand Buck said:
Muir said:
Get a 270. With 150 grain bullets you can sight in 3" high at 100 and be within a couple inches of spot on at 250.~Muir


Shows how little Muir really knows!

Zero a 25-06 at 1.25" high at 100m and you be spot on at 200m and about 2" low at 300m

Get the 25-06 you will not regret it

are we sure about that figure at 300 yards? a drop of 3.25 inches from a 100 yard zero rifle at 300 yards?

don't think so
He didn't say it was zeroed at 100m! :confused:
it was 1.25" high at 100m, ZEROED at 200m and 2" low at 300m. ie drops
3.25" from 100m. :)
Mine is about the same! ;)
 
Re: ..... how little muir really knows?????

Monkey Spanker said:
ruki said:
Stand Buck said:
Muir said:
Get a 270. With 150 grain bullets you can sight in 3" high at 100 and be within a couple inches of spot on at 250.~Muir


Shows how little Muir really knows!

Zero a 25-06 at 1.25" high at 100m and you be spot on at 200m and about 2" low at 300m

Get the 25-06 you will not regret it

are we sure about that figure at 300 yards? a drop of 3.25 inches from a 100 yard zero rifle at 300 yards?

don't think so
He didn't say it was zeroed at 100m! :confused:
it was 1.25" high at 100m, ZEROED at 200m and 2" low at 300m. ie drops
3.25" from 100m. :)
Mine is about the same! ;)


Of course it is not zeroed at 100m if it is 1.25" high, but even at that
you would need huge speed to achieve 2" low at 300m.
The 85gr Fed ammo drops 6.8" at 300yds (8.8" at 300meter) if zeroed at 100yds. (100m) (Federal Data)
Even the swift at 4250fps drops 4.5" at 300yds if zeroed at 100yd. (Federal Data)

What weight bullet are we talking about? I thought something for red deer.

edi
 
270 v 25-06

hi sako

buy a 270 then give me the dealers number so I can buy the sako 75 25-06 just what Ive been looking for !!!

:lol:

regards Steve
 
I spent a long time reading up on calibres before I put in for my FAC. I spent every evening on google bringing up info on my 3 calibre possibilities (.25-06, .270 or 6.5x55) and although I went for the 6.5x55, I think I only did that because 1. My mentor used it and 2. it's a mild round and I didn't like recoil.

The .25-06 seemed to me to be a .243 with a little more behind it. The .270 looked to be real hard hitter whilst still being able to shoot flat. It also has the option of upping the bullet weight a little more for tough game.

If I made the choice now I'd probably pick the .270! I've got used to recoil and accept it, and although I love the 6.5x55, it does restrict use abroad in countries with a military calibre ban. For Devon woodland Reds you need something that will hit hard, they're bloody tough and you don't have the open hill to track a runner like you would in scotland. The extra punch of the .270 will certainly help.
 
Stand Buck said:
Muir said:
Get a 270. With 150 grain bullets you can sight in 3" high at 100 and be within a couple inches of spot on at 250.~Muir


Shows how little Muir really knows!

Zero a 25-06 at 1.25" high at 100m and you be spot on at 200m and about 2" low at 300m

Get the 25-06 you will not regret it

What are you smoking? :eek:
Not only is your ballistic data questionable even with an 87 grain bullet (More like 6" low at 300 with damned little energy on arrival) , but what does that have to do with my recommendation of the 270??

I mean, I'll admit, I quit loading for the 270 about 15 years ago but I shot a 150 grain RN at 2800 fps and the trajectory was as I described: within a couple/few inches of spot on at 250. This load provided a very fine "point plank" trajectory window for deer shooting. :rolleyes: ~Muir
 
I have no qualms about using a 25 caliber on small to medium deer. I own a 257 Roberts myself. I will relate that i have witnessed the failures of light bullets in the 25-06 to cleanly kill 80-pound mule deer does as close as 125 yards. I'm talking 87 and 90 grain bullets. Saw one pitiful creature take 6 hits from an 87 grain 25-06 and was still alive when the fellow knelt to gut her.

I am a big believer in using the heaviest bullet I can toss in a small bore and I'm not afraid of a goodly lead tip. (Note that my 150 grain loads were RN soft points.) The allure of that guided-missile look to your loaded round shouldn't shake the fact that at close range -and 250 yards is close, ballistically speaking- sleek aerodymanics aren't a requisite. Those big exposed lead noses begin to crumple on impact and the expansion begins; enhancing the benefits of the sectional sensity you bought when you decided to shoot a smaller caliber.

Just my Uneducated Opinion, of course.~MUir
 
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