nv set up

reelme

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i am wanting to make my 223 into a nightvision only gun and would like some FIRST hand advice on which unit to purchase .i would like to keep the cost below 2k ? any FIRST hand advice appreciated:D
 
So, be clear - a dedicated night sight at below 2k. (Any particular reason why dedicated?) I'm assuming this is a fox rig - what sort of ranges do you shoot at?

What sort of magnification do you like to shoot at as this may have a bearing too.
 
Pulsar N750 with an NM800IR torch & a doubler takes some beating & comes in under your budget at around £1600 ;)
 
The problem with a dedicated n/v setup as in the Pulsar mentioned above is that to scan around the area with it is that you are also scanning around with a loaded rifle. For around the same price, you can buy a Starlight Archer than can be used as a hand held (it has a built in doubler) when you spot a pair of eyes or need to positively identify the eyes, it then simply connects to your scope and if you are on say 6x on the scope, it will effectively give you a 12 x mag.

The down side of the unit is that you really need a parallax adjusting scope to get the best out of this unit plus it does add length to the scope so shooting with it takes a bit of adjustment, but with a 223 recoil that should be no problem. I have an Archer and have also spent quite a bit of time looking through a Pulsar 750 - will stick with the Archer.
 
So for a dedicated rig, you are looking at something like a (maxi) Kite to make it worth while really - but over your budget. Others will come up with variants of this with a Gen3 tube.

I'm with PeterH on this - the Gen3 add-on monoculars are very good and give you additional mag through your day scope should you need it, with the small concession on LoP as you are set back on the stock a bit because of the add on.

I use a PVS-14 - excellent piece of kit - Archer also good. I'm not yet completely convinced by the digital stuff. I am very interested in seeing the new Pulsar 5x42 sight when it comes out (allegedly very shortly) - as at £400 ish it could be a game changer in the market - and may meet your requirements and give you money to spend on other toys like a dedicated spotter - or thermal....(!)

BTW, the NM800 IR torch is a superb bit of kit and with the interchangeable LED's is a must have bit of kit IMO.
 
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My initial suggestions would be as V890.

The N750 with NM800IR is a cracking setup and ideal for foxing at the ranges you refer to.

The Archer in a Gen 3 D also comes into budget and is a superb piece of kit for use as suggested as handheld spotting and then attached to the riflescope quickly.

However with 2k to spend you could go N750 and the excellent Recon 750 hand held as a spotter too bang on budget for best of both worlds.


Buy Pulsar Recon 750 Digital Night Vision Monocular - shop at suppliers Scott Country

The new Photon 5x42 is mentioned and that is the new device from Yukon which I have been using for several weeks now as a demo unit and is great but is for shorter range use that you look for particularly for shooting at 200yds as it will offer spotting/detection out to 190m max. Realistically it is ideal for .17hmr use at night, and occaisional foxing on bigger calibres, but for a dedicated foxing rig, you do need to spend more to achieve a regular longer range recognition range.

We offer a 7 day demo service which allows you to try at home for 7 days before you buy. (Conditions apply) why not try an N750 and Night master at home first then make a decision

More info here

Night Vision Demo Units - 7 Day Trial

The service is there to allow people to make an informed decision so take advantage of it where you can of course we are happy to do.

Best Regards

Paul
 
cheers for the info,i already have two handheld units for spotting atn and a bresser so thats why i was after the dedicated nv scope ,the pulsar is very appealing but with all the add-ons it does get into the archer price range! ideally a scoped size unit without extra this and snap on that is what i would like (like the 5 x 42yukon?)
paul i will be in touch for a demo cheers do you have mounts for sako s491 to take the n750?
 
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Sorry for a bit of a thread hi-jack but to all those that know about Archers, if I put a normal eye-relief scope in the long eye relief position on my steyr scout, when the archer was then attached, it would be perfect wouldn't it????
(google a pic of a scout to see what I mean but basically, the picante rail goes a long way forward)
 
Crosshair its hard to explain but I would say it should be fine somewhere mid position. I use one on my sako 85 with a Z6i and yes the positioning isn't perfect a lot depends how you are shooting and you do tend to adjust. If shooting from the wingmirror of my truck its no issue at all but lying prone it takes a bit more getting used to. A simple option is to bung a stock extender on when you have the nv fitted but so far I've not needed to. Depending which bit of berks you are if you wanted to try one on then I'm not that far away. For the OP's spec I would say an archer would fit the bill well with the versatility to swap between rifles, the bonus point for me with regard to getting a decent id and shot is retaining the variable scope magnification
 
Sorry for a bit of a thread hi-jack but to all those that know about Archers, if I put a normal eye-relief scope in the long eye relief position on my steyr scout, when the archer was then attached, it would be perfect wouldn't it????
(google a pic of a scout to see what I mean but basically, the picante rail goes a long way forward)
I have a friend who does exactly that.
 
My initial suggestions would be as V890.

The N750 with NM800IR is a cracking setup and ideal for foxing at the ranges you refer to.

The Archer in a Gen 3 D also comes into budget and is a superb piece of kit for use as suggested as handheld spotting and then attached to the riflescope quickly.

However with 2k to spend you could go N750 and the excellent Recon 750 hand held as a spotter too bang on budget for best of both worlds.


Buy Pulsar Recon 750 Digital Night Vision Monocular - shop at suppliers Scott Country

The new Photon 5x42 is mentioned and that is the new device from Yukon which I have been using for several weeks now as a demo unit and is great but is for shorter range use that you look for particularly for shooting at 200yds as it will offer spotting/detection out to 190m max. Realistically it is ideal for .17hmr use at night, and occaisional foxing on bigger calibres, but for a dedicated foxing rig, you do need to spend more to achieve a regular longer range recognition range.

We offer a 7 day demo service which allows you to try at home for 7 days before you buy. (Conditions apply) why not try an N750 and Night master at home first then make a decision

More info here

Night Vision Demo Units - 7 Day Trial

The service is there to allow people to make an informed decision so take advantage of it where you can of course we are happy to do.

Best Regards

Paul

Useful info on the Photon - thanks. Sounds like it has a bit of a limitation on distance, but is still a hell of a piece of kit for that money.
 
Demo unit will only come with the standard Pulsar weaver rail mount.

If you buy a unit, Sako mounts won't be an issue they can be supplied in Burris weaver base mounts or depending on the particular receiver, a rail mount to the four tapped action holes.

I am on paternity leave at moment but ask for Sharon or Cowan my colleagues and they will be able to sort demo for you.

best regards


Paul
 
Demo unit will only come with the standard Pulsar weaver rail mount.

If you buy a unit, Sako mounts won't be an issue they can be supplied in Burris weaver base mounts or depending on the particular receiver, a rail mount to the four tapped action holes.

I am on paternity leave at moment but ask for Sharon or Cowan my colleagues and they will be able to sort demo for you.

best regards


Paul
cheers will do
​Daz
 
For 2k I would go gen3 like an envis or if lucky you might get a pvs-14, you will need a scope with side parallax and a DSA cage (cost around £90) also some sort of IR like a n1000 (cost around £145)both of these units will blow the Pulsar away, there is no digital unit other than one home made one I've seen that would beat a gen3 and even that one had loads of IR to make it any good, if you want to go dedicated then a Raptor / D760 or D480 are top but all come at a price that might be over your budget other than the d760, just be careful with dedicated units as a lot can suffer from parallax issues, to check this put the rifle on a bi-pod and aim at a target like a fence at around 30yards then move your head side to side and if the crosshairs move it then has a parallax issue.
 
Pulsar N750 with an NM800IR torch & a doubler takes some beating & comes in under your budget at around £1600 ;)
this is the setup i've got.but a N550 but i cannot keep the doubler tight its ok for about 3 shots then it moves.i've tried glueing it with 2 pack epoxy but it still moved.any problems with yours?
 
Hi there buddy you have a lot of info already but here's how my .223 is set for night use but can also go day if required.I have a dfa75 helped by a nm800 ir and believe me when I say at the 200 yards and possibly 200 over you will be impressed,I am to the point where I will not fit my pvs14 in its place but I use it for spotting don't get me wrong I'm not saying the dfa is better than the pvs as its not its just that the dfa is more than enough night vision for foxing at 200 to 400 yards and the pvs for spotting several counties over.LOL
 
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