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Thread: RTA cut its throat?

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    RTA cut its throat?

    Is this a legitimate way of dispatching a wounded deer involved in a RTA?

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    not ideal,depends on circumstances....if thats the quickest most humane way.....i would gofor the atlas joint myself....

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    If you haven't got a rifle/shotgun/pistol, I'm sure dispatch by Any means available at the time is acceptable.

    Only thing you might get pulled up on by plod is "Why did you happen to have a knife with you at the time sir?" if it was an off the cuff affair, ie Not a call out.
    Owning a gun or knife and not using it, is akin to not sleeping with your girlfriend to keep her neat and tidy for the next bloke.

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    unless you have a lot of experiance i wouldnt consider the atlas joint , you may end up looking a bit amaturish ,just my opinion but if the only options are cutting throat or atlas i would opt for the former ,i no atlas is very quick but if your not very competant play it safe !

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    done correctly yes
    so as not to fall fowl if old bill are on hand. i copyed this for you.
    Quote:[ basc code of practice ]
    1/There may be exceptional circumstances where a firearm is either not available or inappropriate. In these circumstances a knife can be used,provided it is used in such a manner that does not cause unnecessary suffering to the deer. This requires specific training and experience on behalfof the stalker who should adhere to the guidance given below. If a knife is used, then the animal must be dispatched by rapid bleeding. The best method is to cut the throat of the deer below the chin, so that all the soft tissue below the spinal column is separated. Then hinge the head up to allow the carotid and jugular veins to bleed freely. There should be two powerful jets of blood from the carotid arteries and a flow from the jugular veins. the orientation of the blood vessels within the neck of a deer. Cutting these major blood vessels will cause the animal to expire very swiftly from a loss of blood to the brain. The neck of a deer is covered by much loose hair so the most effective approach is to drive the point of the knife into the side of the animal’s neck and cut outwards. In order to carry out this task effectively, the operator needs a sharp knife with a blade at least twelve centimetres (5 inches) long
    [from the code of pratice (basc)]

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    Messy and not quick.

    Would be my absolute last choice. I'd rather wait for someone better equipped. Unless the animal was unconscious you could be guilty of casuing unnecessary suffering.

    Using a folding knife puts you at risk. You cannot just carry a fixed blade.

    Section 161 of the Highways Act 1980 (England & Wales) makes it an offence to discharge a firearm within 50 ft of the centre of a highway with vehicular rights without lawful authority or excuse, if as a result a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered.

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    Legislation is "any means that does not cause unnecessary suffering" - I was told I could use a golf club as long as it was quick... But if I was still there smashing it's head in 5 minutes later I was open for prosecution on grounds of cruelty to animals. (his point was do whatever but be confident it will be quick!)

    In response to your question I shot a fallow multiple times in the head with a 38 last month but eventually stuck its throat and heart in order to switch it off fully! The advice I had from others was a knife in the atlas joint/throat/heart or a shotgun were the two quickest ways to switch them off... for reasons of discretion I use a pistol, but have now got some fit for purpose hollow points.

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    You can use any method available, including running it over again, or hitting it with a rock, so a knife to the throat would be perfectly fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by arron View Post
    unless you have a lot of experiance i wouldnt consider the atlas joint , you may end up looking a bit amaturish ,just my opinion but if the only options are cutting throat or atlas i would opt for the former ,i no atlas is very quick but if your not very competant play it safe !
    I have to agree, Atlas joint is preferable, if you are competent & the animal is not too mobile.
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    Messy and not quick.

    Would be my absolute last choice. I'd rather wait for someone better equipped. Unless the animal was unconscious you could be guilty of casuing unnecessary suffering.

    Using a folding knife puts you at risk. You cannot just carry a fixed blade.
    Agreed, though I used a spyderco uk legal carry folder that actually is designed not to fold on you - it's a fruit knife/work tool for me so usually have it on me unless I'm in town etc... Not an ideal tool as 3" blade but sharp enough to stick just above the sternum and bleed in an emergency.

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