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    Expanding ammo

    Ive read alot of threads since i joined and There seems to be a lot of members using target ammo for foxing and a lot are ready to criticise the use of this type of ammo to use on deer,sounds like we are in amongst a bunch of hypocrits,why should foxes be treated any different than deer

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarovski View Post
    Ive read alot of threads since i joined and There seems to be a lot of members using target ammo for foxing and a lot are ready to criticise the use of this type of ammo to use on deer,sounds like we are in amongst a bunch of hypocrits,why should foxes be treated any different than deer
    You make a very good point. I believe that a lot of people do so because of our ridiculous firearms laws that don't permit the posting of expanding bullets through the mail.
    Perhaps on humanitarian grounds is another reason to make a case for a change in the law.
    Last edited by 8x57; 24-05-2013 at 06:33.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    The Berger fmj that I use for target shooting are also recommended by the manufacturer for use on foxes. atb Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbrayford View Post
    The Berger fmj that I use for target shooting are also recommended by the manufacturer for use on foxes. atb Tim
    That's possibly because in many countries FMJ bullets are used for fur hunting and the rapid demise of the target animal is of secondary concern.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    It certainly seems that some RFD's/shops constabulary's allow simply that the trader 'records' the sale of expanding bullets in their own ledger, while other constabulary's insist the recording of the sale is also entered on the purchasers FAC at which time the FAC holder must be present.
    I'm unsure which is correct to the 'law' and which is the chief constables 'discretion'.

    What is clear, is that the FAC holder not being present to make the purchase, prohibits the mailing of expanding bullets directly to him/her in the UK...but must be mailed to another RFD where the purchaser collects them, (Probably with the receiving RFD's margin added to the price) although it's fine to have them mailed from abroad into the UK - directly to the purchaser - or is it?
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    That's the silly part, you can receive from abroad but not from within the U.K.
    Logical bit of legislation isn't it. It drives me mad and what good does it serve anyway.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarovski View Post
    Ive read alot of threads since i joined and There seems to be a lot of members using target ammo for foxing and a lot are ready to criticise the use of this type of ammo to use on deer,sounds like we are in amongst a bunch of hypocrits,why should foxes be treated any different than deer
    I'm not sure that the law has much to do with this, other than that it has caused bullets designed to expand to be resticted under S5 and those which just happen to expand to be free from such restriction.

    Given this state of affairs, it might be that a particular bullet, S5 or not, is suitable for a smaller, lighter mammal such as a fox but not for a larger, heavier one like a deer.
    If so, might we be a bunch of people who select approriate bullets for their particular quarry, rather than a bunch of hypocrits?
    Last edited by Dalua; 24-05-2013 at 07:08.

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    If you look on your fac i would imagine it sez about the use of expanding ammo on fox and deer etc.i doubt if it sez its ok to use fmj bullets if you want to lol.all hunting ammo is expanding.i dont care what they do in other countries.xpanding ammo is our rules grrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8x57 View Post
    That's the silly part, you can receive from abroad but not from within the U.K.
    Logical bit of legislation isn't it. It drives me mad and what good does it serve anyway.
    I think that there may have been a regulatory reform order drafted to remove these restrictions which was shelved after a serious shooting incident, BASC may have more accurate details of this. atb Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarovski View Post
    If you look on your fac i would imagine it sez about the use of expanding ammo on fox and deer etc.i doubt if it sez its ok to use fmj bullets if you want to lol.all hunting ammo is expanding.i dont care what they do in other countries.xpanding ammo is our rules grrrr
    It says that I may possess and use S5 bullets for fox and deer.
    There is no law to say I must use S5 bullets on fox.

    This thread might be an interesting read.
    Last edited by Dalua; 24-05-2013 at 07:24.

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