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    .270

    Hi, I have just joined the site so bear with me if this ends up in the wrong place


    I am looking into picking up a .270 fairly soon,(got my cert. for the gun and mod already) and was just wondering if I could get some advice as there seems to be loads of good info. on this site!


    My first choice rifle was going to be a tikka T3 hunter and a second choice was a CZ 550. I'm not sure what the normal cost of each is? but I know the CZ will be cheaper. Which one would you guys recommend? Better shooter ect? I've read that there is too much plastic on the tikka for the price but I could live with that if it's a much better gun. Also, would the CZ realistically need a timney trigger kit to shoot well?

    I am looking to put a S&B 8X56 on the rifle? What's a normal price for them? And your preferred recticle?...Illuminated? I have a leupold 6.5-20X40 atm so I am considering keeping this for the time being but not sure...

    And finally for a moderator. I was looking at one of the ASE Compact mods but I hear the are fairly expensive? How do you guys find them?


    Sorry for such a long winded question but I am going to keep this as my only centerfire,(so it will be taken foxing when needed) and I just want to get the set up right first time so that it will last me.


    Many thanks for reading and any replies will be greatly appreciated!

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    CZ 's are underrated good shooters Tikka's barrels are made in the same factory as Sako, S&B optics can sometimes be found second hand at around 300/450 if you are lucky, Steve. p.s. welcome to a busy informative site.

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    CZ 452. The 270 is a great choice and will certainly flatten any deer but for example a 308 might have other advantages such as longer barrel life a lighter short action rifle, cheaper ammo and very cheap practice ammo available. I think it is very important to fire many many rounds with a rifle at targets also under field conditions to get used to a rifle. Which is possibly much more important than changing a trigger.
    A 308 works well with a short barrel or looses less performance than a 270 30-06 25-06 with a short barrel. This can be an advantage when you add a moderator and don't want the rig to be too long.

    The S&B 8x56 is a very good choice. Avoid the no 1 post reticule it does not suit every one. No. 4 is ok No. 7 or is very good. As finnbear say's try to find one second hand. At a push your Leupold would do at the start.

    I would always rather invest well into a rifle less on the optics at first.. because one needs time to sort a rifle and find the right ammo etc. it is also a big hassle with licencing to change a rifle. Changing scopes is no problem and one can get better and better optics over time.


    Have a look at jaeger sporting arms, they have a new moderator on the market which seems to be very well made and at a very good price. Thar from this site Im sure is using one at the moment.

    Take your time with choosing a rifle and handle several.
    Remmy and howa have plenty aftermarket bits and cheaper scope mounts than for example a tikka. Stainless rifles do have an advantage and I would prefer them anytime over blued.
    Main thing is you enjoy your rifle. Don't get hyped up about people talking about 1/4" groups in the field other things are more important.

    edi

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    For some strange reason the venerable .270 win is out of fasion at the moment so there are plenty of good quality secondhand deals to be had. Whilst there is nothing wrong with a Tika or CZ, I would buy a good used Sako 75 or 85 Stainless Synthetic or laminate. Try McLeods (?), they often have used scopes too. JC

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    When looking for a 243 I looked at both the CZ and the Tikka. In the end I chose the CZ as it fit me better, im quite a big build and the CZ was bigger with a good stock, the Tikka was quite petite although a nice gun. Try and handle them both and see which fits best 8) I also tried remington 700 and 710, there action wasn't the best, the 710 was terrible.

    The CZ action was ok and did the job, the Tikka was nicer but not by a huge amount, A sako 75 I tried had a MINT action as smooth as butter but it cost 1000

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    I on the other hand was extremely fortunate, (unusual for me) & got my paws on a silky smooth Sako Finnbear .270Win for less than 550!

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnbear270
    I on the other hand was extremely fortunate, (unusual for me) & got my paws on a silky smooth Sako Finnbear .270Win for less than 550!
    Finnbear, did you buy the Sako I posted the link to for one of the other guys last month?

    If so, how did it turn out? Post a few pics!!

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    No Sorry Claret, Had this one from a local shooting school in North wales, found her on the shelf badly knocked about with a smashed ejector blade, a trip over to TT Procter at Wilmslow sorted that, the rest is pure pleasure!Steve.

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    CZ, check out the S&B scope for sale 400 in the classifieds!

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    The 270 is a great choice and will certainly flatten any deer but for example a 308 might have other advantages such as longer barrel life a lighter short action rifle, cheaper ammo and very cheap practice ammo available.

    I think that with Henry Krank selling 270 at 48 per 100 the "myth" of cheap practice 308 is now just that. Maybe in the 1980s yes. But not now since all of NATO went to 5.56mm.

    A 308 works well with a short barrel or looses less performance than a 270 30-06 25-06 with a short barrel. This can be an advantage when you add a moderator and don't want the rig to be too long.

    Errm? A 140 grain bullet from a 270 (or even a 150 grain bullet) starts at GREATER velocity than does a 308 with the same weight bullet AND is ballistically more efficient. So that doesn't follow at all IMHO.

    The S&B 8x56 is a very good choice. Avoid the no 1 post reticule it does not suit every one. No. 4 is ok No. 7 or is very good.

    I'd maybe consider a variable. Sometimes 8x is just too much! There are times in woodland when 4x is better. 6x is well, neither "fish" nor "fowl"! I totally agree on reticule with the above post. The "sniper" type is superb for "quarry" six feet tall and two feet wide. But pretty much useless on deer. It just does not give that definition to enable the bullet to be tucked in close up just behind the shoulder.

    I would always rather invest well into a rifle less on the optics at first.. because one needs time to sort a rifle and find the right ammo etc. it is also a big hassle with licencing to change a rifle. Changing scopes is no problem and one can get better and better optics over time.

    I disagree. If you see a well looked after, good condition, secondhand European 'scope at a bargain price on say Monday then grab it. It WILL NOT be there to buy next week when Monday comes around again!

    As long as you are confident of getting your FAC (or already have one with the variation for your 270) then if you see as described seize the chance when good optics come your way. The rifle can wait as the secondhand 270 game is a market where the buyer holds all the cards.

    Me? I'd strongly look at the www.guntrader.co.uk website and maybe for a secondhand 270 even try Livens at Burton on Trent who I think had a CZ in 270 with Meopta 8x for sale recently.

    As for foxing? A 115 grain bullet in your 270 will outperform any 308 load in terms of flat trajectory as it has a superior ballistic capability.

    Lastly accuracy (and second shot rapidity) is EVERYTHING. The nicest rifle ever is useless if it can't achieve good accuracy and easy bolt manipulation on that second shot.

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