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Thread: Problems with airlines when going on safari ? "Anti" cabin crew ?

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    Problems with airlines when going on safari ? "Anti" cabin crew ?

    Ive already posted this in the "Traveling with a bangstick post " but feel its worth discussing on its own , For those who are not aware , most airlines have "Anti`s" who work for them , they will go out of their way to screw up your trip , not letting firearms onto planes on time is one of the many dirty tricks ,also deliberately delaying your luggage at your destination , even interfering with in flight meals , no doubt to cause food poisoning !! ,

    Ive had first hand experience of all of these problems when travelling to African destinations , on my last trip to S.A being a bit wiser I was suspicious when a British Airways stewardess asked on the PA system "will the passenger who is travelling with a firearm (in the hold of course) please make themselves known" she then quizzed me in a friendly way as to why I had a firearm and I said for a hunting trip , I later was very surprised when I received my food , the sealed main course had been opened and there was a nasty looking gunge in with the food , fellow passengers food trays were all sealed ,having been poisoned via food by cabin crew previously I did not eat it of course .

    When I mentioned this to my friend who is a PH in SA he said he also had his suspicions as many of his hunting clients often became ill on arrival where as the photographer clients rarely were ill , the same with lost or delayed luggage , a regular problem for hunters but not photographers .

    My advice is make sure your insurance covers these possibilities and dont eat the in flight food , take your own or buy it in the departure lounge !

    Anyone else experienced this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johno100 View Post
    Ive already posted this in the "Traveling with a bangstick post " but feel its worth discussing on its own , For those who are not aware , most airlines have "Anti`s" who work for them , they will go out of their way to screw up your trip , not letting firearms onto planes on time is one of the many dirty tricks ,also deliberately delaying your luggage at your destination , even interfering with in flight meals , no doubt to cause food poisoning !! ,

    Ive had first hand experience of all of these problems when travelling to African destinations , on my last trip to S.A being a bit wiser I was suspicious when a British Airways stewardess asked on the PA system "will the passenger who is travelling with a firearm (in the hold of course) please make themselves known" she then quizzed me in a friendly way as to why I had a firearm and I said for a hunting trip , I later was very surprised when I received my food , the sealed main course had been opened and there was a nasty looking gunge in with the food , fellow passengers food trays were all sealed ,having been poisoned via food by cabin crew previously I did not eat it of course .

    When I mentioned this to my friend who is a PH in SA he said he also had his suspicions as many of his hunting clients often became ill on arrival where as the photographer clients rarely were ill , the same with lost or delayed luggage , a regular problem for hunters but not photographers .

    My advice is make sure your insurance covers these possibilities and dont eat the in flight food , take your own or buy it in the departure lounge !

    Anyone else experienced this?
    Shame you couldn't have taken a piccy on your phone of the staff member, reckon security might have had some input.
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnbear270 View Post
    Shame you couldn't have taken a piccy on your phone of the staff member, reckon security might have had some input.
    Good point , hopefully anyone who reads this will be wiser and take detailed notes and full names should the same happen to them.

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    I was deliberately delayed on my trip to Estonia. The woman on the secure check-in at Stanstead flatly refused to check in my rifle, claiming she "wasn't trained to deal with guns". The security guard who escorted me said that was absolute rubbish as all check-in staff had had a firearms briefing from Essex police in the last couple of weeks. A supervisor had to be called to do it and by the time I cleared the desk there was less than 20 minutes to my flight. I was the last passenger to board, and when I landed at Talin I found my rifle hadn't made it on to the plane. It took 3 days for my rifle to reach me; fortunately undamaged.If my guide hadn't been willing to lend me his rifle my trip would potentially have been ruined. As it was, we didn't see anything shootable in those 3 days anyway.I never managed to connect with a moose (elk), but did bag a nice wild boar.
    You can't say muntjac without saying, Mmmmmm.

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    Any recommendations on insurance companies/brokers who deal with this like ski insurance?

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    Anyone had further dealings with these airlines, with regards their staff shortcomings?
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    I travel a lot with my guns (0nce a month) and have never had a problem. I travel with Swiss and find the staff very polite and professional. Most of them wish me a "good luck". I find it bizarre that a member of the cabin crew would address the cabin over the PA and mention the word Firearm, never mind ask the passenger to identify themselves. On one occasions, when I had to fly with Easyjet (no choice in the matter) the air hostess approached me discreetly and told me that my firearm had been boarded. Had my food been opened or tampered with, I would have complained and asked for a replacement.

    Another thing for peace of mind.........when at the gate, that is after having been checked in, advise the check in agent that you are travelling with firearms and that you will only board the plane once the guns have been confirmed as having been boarded. Works every time.........................

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    Name and shame please.
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    What's the legal position with us being separated from a rifle?

    Surely UK Plod would have an absolute FIT if we were to arrive at OR Tambo, when our rifles are still at LHR - or somewhere en route!!!
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    I.Farticus,

    Not UK plods problem. Once you check in you are effectively "out of the UK". It's HMRC who deal with it anyway.

    If you get to OR Tambo without your rifle you have to wait for it. If it vanishes for ever then it's an insurance issue for you and merely an admin issue for FirearmsLicensing.

    ​Stan

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