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    Which Manual?

    I am new to reloading and would like some advice as to which is the best manual to buy? I will initially be reloading for my 243 but hope to reload for 308 in the future. Can you tell me which would be most useful the Lee 2nd edition or the Lyman 49th?

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    One of the best reloading manuals in my very humble opinion and one you will never go wrong with is the Speer Reloading Manual and also another very usefull is the 'One Caliber' series books.
    The ORDNANCE QF 18 pounder Field Gun......I wonder if they will let me have one of these on an open ticket

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    I suggest you buy as many different ones as you can afford. They really are a vital piece of your reloading kit. The Lee is good but a little to heavy on the cast Lead side of things for me.The Nosler i find is very realistic with regard to pressures and velocity. I am never without a Manual at the side of the 'Thunder Box'.

    I have Lee, Sierra, Hornady, Berger and Nosler.

    Yorkie.

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    Also some of the powder manufactures put data on line as well so google is your friend
    When I first got into hand loading I met a man at the range who told me that he just loaded maximum loads for his rifle and that was fine.
    Thought he was a bit of an idiot and the more I learn about the hobby of hand loading the more I think he is actually a bag of accidents waiting to happen.
    Guess all those disclaimers for start at minimum and work up were for everyone else


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    Where in West Sussex are u Julesi. I reload 22-250 / .270 and used to reload .243 so if your local I may be able to run you through the basics etc and you can look through both those manuals as well as Speer and nosler manuals.

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    I reckon the Lyman is pretty comprehensive, I use it often. The Speer is very good and the Richard Lee Modern Reloading is good for data....plainly it pushes Lee equipment a lot, but that aside does have useful data. For me, the Lyman is the one to have, but all are worth having as well as utilising the data on the net. ATB
    Blaser K95 Luxus Kipplaufbüchse .25-06Rem. Zeiss 8x56, 110gn Nosler Accubond = Game Over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave 67 View Post
    Also some of the powder manufactures put data on line as well so google is your friend
    When I first got into hand loading I met a man at the range who told me that he just loaded maximum loads for his rifle and that was fine.
    Thought he was a bit of an idiot and the more I learn about the hobby of hand loading the more I think he is actually a bag of accidents waiting to happen.
    Guess all those disclaimers for start at minimum and work up were for everyone else
    Dave.
    An example of this is some of the Data Vit give for the 30-06. I have a 30-06 Ackley and some of the Vit standard 30-06 loads would be very hot in my Ackley. As we know, the Manuals are a GUIDE. As you say, start low and work up.

    Yorkie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeangeo View Post
    I reckon the Lyman is pretty comprehensive, I use it often. The Speer is very good and the Richard Lee Modern Reloading is good for data....plainly it pushes Lee equipment a lot, but that aside does have useful data. For me, the Lyman is the one to have, but all are worth having as well as utilising the data on the net. ATB
    I use the Lee and have crates of others as a back up. Seldom use them, though.

    I understand the criticism of the Lee book for self promotion but doesn't Speer, Lyman, Hodgdon and others do exactly the same? They list only their products which is a degree of self promotion in itself. An ancient RCBS manual I have piped their products as much as Lee does theirs. Lyman goes to great -and somewhat over stated- pains to tell you how much precision goes into making their bullet molds. Speer and Sierra would show you pretty girls hand sorting and inspecting the bullets you bought. Most of you guys probably never heard of Herter's Outfitters but they put out a loading manual that was so totally shameless in self promotion that reading the book was more entertaining than the data it contained: really P.T. Barnum-ish. Self promotion is, and has been standard fare. I agree: Lee lays it on thick but the data is worth sifting through it. Just an observation.~Muir

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    Ahhh yes Herters. I saw a nice Herters (BSA made receiver) rilfe in 7mm RM for sale at a Newark show complete with Herters Sling and swivels, scope mounts obviously came off some Airbase and out of the PX at some point.

    My first manual was Hodgdons #26 and I stil like it's format. The speer ones prior to this were awful to use IMHO. After this Speer copied the #26's format and they are easier to use. Have Lees one and never use it if I am honest. Also have Hornady, Vhit and Norma. several of each as it happens.

    May I suggest you take a look through a couple if you can and decide which format you find easy to use then go for it.

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    Thanks everyone for the advice overall it seems you cant have enough of them so I wont be wasting money on buying either of them.

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