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Thread: 22 hornet or 222

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    22 hornet or 222

    Wats cheapest to reload

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    The bullets you reload in either should be comparatively the same . The primers are about the same price wise and the powder is going to be about the same cost per pound !

    The only place you might see a slight cost savings is in the amount of powder used in a Hornet versus the 222 . The Horent should use 5-10 grains less powder depending on what you use in either . Obviousely the same powders are not good usually for both . But typically most rifle powders are selling in the same ballpark .

    Brass cost is maybe a slight bit less for the 22 Hornet although I'm not so sure of that any longer . If it were me I'd opt for the 222 as it has a bit more zip to say the least . I think you'll find in the overall spectrum of things the cost difference between the two would be no more then 5-10% at best .

    Another thing to figure in the equation is the rifle you have available for either cartridge and base it on which one you like the most or feels better to you .

    Just my opinion !

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    There's nothing to add to the above other than the 222 is less fiddly to reload so the question might change to "why not the hornet" if shots are unlikely to be over 150 yards.

    Good question!

    K
    Ps: Moles won't like either.
    Last edited by Klenchblaize; 27-06-2013 at 05:55.

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    half as much powder in the hornet
    but then 1/2- 2/3's of the velocity

    ​no free lunch here

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewsher500 View Post
    half as much powder in the hornet
    but then 1/2- 2/3's of the velocity

    ​no free lunch here
    That's the most extreme example. My top 40 grain loads in the Hornet are at 2900 fps. Same bullet in the .222 gives 3230fps.~Muir

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    Discounting that there are some OLD rifles chambered for 22 Hornet then'd I say it is a question of what is easiest to get dies and component cases for.

    And it ain't 22 Hornet nor 222....but the 223! And as "easiest" usually means cheapest I'd say that secondhand 223 reloading dies and GENUINE once fired 223 cases will be the cheapest option.

    But if you are set on 22 Hornet vs 222 then I'd go for the 222 as it can always be downloaded to Hornet specification. And, of course, in any case having a flatter trajectory your "point blank" range will be longer. Also whilst not as common as it once was it is still easier to find factory 222 cartridges than 22 Hornet cartridges.

    And, not least, you'll find it less difficult to sell on a used 222 than you will a used 22 Hornet PLUS the one is deer legal (and specifically mentioned in legislation) and the other is not!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfieldspares View Post
    one is deer legal (and specifically mentioned in legislation) and the other is not!
    Roughly speaking for your Muntjac / CWD :


    .22 Hornet, 50gr, muzzle velocity 2600 feet per second, muzzle energy 750 foot pounds (too low, not legal)

    .222, 50gr, muzzle velocity 3200 feet per second, muzzle energy 1100 foot pounds (OK)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muir View Post
    That's the most extreme example. My top 40 grain loads in the Hornet are at 2900 fps. Same bullet in the .222 gives 3230fps.~Muir
    Never owned either, but:

    Published data e.g. Vihtavuori manual lists 2670fps max load for 40gr Speer in 23.5" 22 Hornet barrel. Same bullet up to 3520fps in 23" 222 Rem barrel.

    To be fair, it seems 22 Hornet data is not as comprehensive as 222 Rem. Could be also that there's no suitable powder in VV line-up for max velocity in Hornet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cornwallmolecontrol View Post
    Wats cheapest to reload

    .223

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muir View Post
    That's the most extreme example. My top 40 grain loads in the Hornet are at 2900 fps. Same bullet in the .222 gives 3230fps.~Muir
    pah!
    I pour scorn on you luke warm 40gr .222 loads

    hats off to your hot hornet though!

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