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    Those at the top

    Now before anybody starts I'm asking??
    Is it possible that those at the top of our shooting organisations are not our best option for representation? Either because of age, set in ways/opinions, lack fight/motivation, want it to go along smoothly, their views differ from the majority, too much the old boy network, anything you can think of, their experience in invaluable we know, this is not to start a slagging match just to asserting what people think of our leaders in general, we have a general view of politicians but are ours any better?
    Good conduct please!
    LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE & PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWMMAN3738 View Post
    Now before anybody starts I'm asking??
    Is it possible that those at the top of our shooting organisations are not our best option for representation? Either because of age, set in ways/opinions, lack fight/motivation, want it to go along smoothly, their views differ from the majority, too much the old boy network, anything you can think of, their experience in invaluable we know, this is not to start a slagging match just to asserting what people think of our leaders in general, we have a general view of politicians but are ours any better?
    Good conduct please!
    I had come to the same conclusion myself, I certainly felt that Jonathon Swift at BASC made himself rather too comfortable and was inept when it came to dealing with politicians. Barney White-Spunner at the CA is a pleasant enough chap but appears to spend much of his time preaching to the converted, perhaps when he has to address the likes of John Prescott on the egalitarianism of country sports he finds his background too much of a handicap.

    atb Tim

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    O.K. so how many of us turn up at the AGM of our particular fiels sports body and push for change?

    David.
    Last edited by Kalahari; 30-06-2013 at 15:03.

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    It seems to me that the ones at the top as you call them are to busy trying to please each other to worry about their members or the members of the public. Insestuous relation ships are rife in the deer stalking and shooting community. From where i am sitting it will not change for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalahari View Post
    O.K. so how many of us turn up at the AGM of our particular fiels sports body and push for change?

    David.
    I do! (At least at a regional level).

    BDS Highland branch AGM this year turnout was abysmal! Since moving north I've heard lots of sarcastic comments about BDS on this site & elsewhere, yet all too few can be ar*ed to turn up to try & make things work the way they would like!
    Too many keyboard cowboys & gobby do nowts around methinks!!

    Ian

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    As I said in another thread what we need is someone to unite behind a leader with drive, a good orator, with passion, & intelligence!
    A bit like our country!
    LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE & PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWMMAN3738 View Post
    As I said in another thread what we need is someone to unite behind a leader with drive, a good orator, with passion, & intelligence!
    A bit like our country!
    I agree our organisations do need a charismatic, media friendly figurehead at the top.

    I think that Robin Page might have been a far better leader for the CA, at BASC Richard Ali has yet to find his feet, Bill Harriman comes over quite well on television & radio but who exactly is Martyn Howat? I would guess that he is not a household name even amongst those that shoot.

    atb Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalahari View Post
    O.K. so how many of us turn up at the AGM of our particular fiels sports body and push for cahnge?

    David.
    I had a go,........ Long grass was the outcome.
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pointer View Post
    It seems to me that the ones at the top as you call them are to busy trying to please each other to worry about their members or the members of the public. Insestuous relation ships are rife in the deer stalking and shooting community. From where i am sitting it will not change for a long time.
    I think you'll find them in most organisations from the government down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov View Post
    I think you'll find them in most organisations from the government down.
    I agree! Not only in your country, here much the same "looking to please the other Exco members" rather than do what the normal members have elected them for: Looking after the member's interests! The same scenario seems to hold in all of these that I have some experience with: PHASA, SA Hunters, SA Wingshooters and a whole host of others!

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