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    Jelen deer services - lantra approved advanced deer management training

    ​Hi everyone,

    So, our second ADM course of the year has just been completed at the prestigious Holkham Estate, Norfolk, and topped with a brilliant visit to Houghton Estate.

    We have so far received some glowing reports from those who have attended, and also some useful feedback on what we need to improve for the next course to be held next weekend in Newton Stewart, SW Scotland.

    No doubt many of you read posts on this and other forums where Jelen receive flack for the most ridiculous reasons, mainly by only a handful of anonymous posters hell-bent on discrediting the company at every opportunity. Surprisingly, much of the unwarranted criticism comes from those who have never dealt with us as a company, who know precious little about the content of our training courses, or the method of teaching we use to distribute the knowledge that we have amassed in over 3 decades as professionals.

    The naysayers, sabre-rattlers, axe-grinders and band-wagoners appear to have achieved nothing in their rantings, other than to provide our company with unprecedented exposure - which is always welcome.

    In contrast, Jelen has never faltered in its commitment and determination to encourage newcomers into deer stalking/management through a range of professionally based training programs, and provision of valuable field experiences. We continue to help raise the standards of wild, park and farmed deer management through our high standard of professional training - unequalled anywhere in the UK.

    The new LANTRA APPROVED Advanced Deer Management Course by JELEN, provides the country's most stable learning platform from where established stalkers, newcomers to deer and wildlife management, and those with an interest in the management of deer and wildlife can obtain vital, current and useful information. And for your peace of mind, its backed up with our 100% money back guarantee.

    Our commitment to helping newcomers, novices and more experienced stalkers reach their goal - whether it is simply to gain stalking, or to become professionals in their own right - is absolute. Jelen's reputation for delivery of professionally based, no-nonsense training opportunities has helped us reach a level of professionalism that many others can only aspire to.

    To find out more about this important training opportunity, EMAIL US on or visit our webpage dedicated to the ADVANCED DEER MANAGEMENT COURSE, or call us on 01264 811155 where we'd be only too pleased to discuss your training needs with you.

    Best regards,


    Mike Allison
    ​(Managing Director - Jelen Deer Services)

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    Jesus Christ Mike,

    Give it a rest old pal...

    First an attack on those with an opinion not shared by yourself , then the biggest self indulgent blow job ive ever seen on here.

    Any professional course does not rely on feedback to improve every new intake or else the previous intake has been the recipient of an inferior course ...

    Personally ive no axe to grind Mike but reading the above it dont sit well with me so i share my opinion as youve shared yours..


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    Wish I could have maximised my advertising outlay like that when I was my own boss!!,
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    I see that the original post resides in the sub-forum "Training Courses and Materials", so is correctly placed. I suppose if you don't want to read testimonials of any kind about training courses and materials then you can avoid this sub-forum. Sadly you cannot avoid sniping at such posts, which is getting quite tedious, and very predictable.

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    To be fair, why would he not sing the praises of his course? Why not have a go at people that are only motivated by putting others down? Who would be able to avoid doing so? Well, I was at the Holkham estate 3 day course. I enjoyed it completely. It was very well assessed with short answer papers regularly each day lading to the final exam on the last day. It was well presented. It was very much open to discussion and everyone with an opinion or thought ( some more than others) was welcome to interrupt and share. The course content was very detailed and the handouts given are very good. I very much believe that even the strongest critics would find it a very worthwhile course to attend. Maybe Jelen should invite some of its more determined critics to attend the course free of charge and see what they think! I'm sure everyone will learn something and it will be worthwhile. It seems when it comes to deer that everyone thinks that they know everything and everyone else is inferior. I have not come across the same in any other area! I am always open minded as hopefully most people are on here. But, if you simply base your opinions on thin air, then they are basically worth about the same. I enjoyed the course and learned a lot. As did the other people on the course I spoke with, many of whom have a lot more experience than I. Biiiyatchesssssssssss. xx.. it is what it is... go on the course an then pass comment..otherwise your comments are not worth a lot!

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    Hmmm............ lets not start arguments please.

    There are quite a few people on here who have been stalking and managing deer for many more years, and it is up to the individual which coarse they choose and who with.

    However I would ask that Jelen tone it down a bit as some of the statements are a bit strong in relation to other professional stalkers
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    Point of information:

    Lantra do not approve courses.

    Neither do Lantra Awards.

    I could run a course on "picking my nose and scratching my arse simultaneously" and Lantra Awards would register it, as long as I paid their fee.

    Their requirements to approve providers (not the content of the provider's courses) are stated here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpie View Post
    Point of information:

    Lantra do not approve courses.

    Neither do Lantra Awards.

    I could run a course on "picking my nose and scratching my arse simultaneously" and Lantra Awards would register it, as long as I paid their fee.

    Their requirements to approve providers (not the content of the provider's courses) are stated here:

    ... Perhaps you should find out what a provider has to do to get a course approved by Lantra Awards!

    Lantra Awards | Training Courses | Customised Provision | Bespoke | Qualifications

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    One of the reasons I gave up commercial stalking was all the back stabbing half wits that seem to infect the sport.
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    I think your right to fight back Mike, unfortunately I just wanted a quieter life without the worry of what I was going to be accused of next
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    teyhan1 you are bang on and many times i have thought about walking away from the political side of deer stalking.To many liars cheats and back stabbers in it to create an extention to there pension at any cost.But we need people like Mike Jellen ,Andrew Treadaway, Paul Adkins ,Robert Sharp, and many others who will stand up and make sure these large organisation dont get a free and easy ride to our hard earned cash. Because without them we will be swallowed up by the big boy,s club and they will set the standard according to their own agenda (CASH NORMALLY). We need options choices and transparency. while i do not have the full details of the Jellen Course it sounds like it is a similar course to BDS, ETC. ( With Extras thrown in ).
    If you want to do an Advanced course you now have a choice the benefits have been shown already.

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