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Thread: The RSPCA again...................surely beyond the remit of a charity?

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    The RSPCA again...................surely beyond the remit of a charity?

    Many of you will have seen in the media this week (and in today'sTelegraph) the serious revelations about an agreement between ACPO Criminal Records Office (ACRO) and the RSPCA, which allows the RSPCA to access information held on the Police National Computer (PNC). The PNC holds large amounts of information about people who have been convicted, cautioned or arrested but also holds information on vehicles, the registered keeper of a vehicle and firearms licensing.
    Anyone who has been unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end of an RSPCA investigation will be all too aware of the close relationship between RSPCA officers and the police and we believe the agreement between ACRO and the RSPCA is merely the tip of the iceberg in terms of the types of information the RSPCA can access. We have sent Freedom of Information (FOI) requests to all police forces in England and Wales asking if there is a force level Information Sharing Agreement (ISA) with the RSPCA. We found that out of the 39 police forces in England and Wales that responded to the FOI, 10 have formal ISAs with the Society.


    It seems that the agreements vary in terms of the information shared, but some include exchanging intelligence, joint operational activity and information held on the National Firearms Licensing Management System and vehicles. This rebuts ACPO attempts to play down the type of information the RSPCA receives as it put in its statement 'indirect access does not include firearms licensing, vehicle registrations (which are held on other systems to the PNC) or any information that the RSPCA does not need in order to prosecute a case at court.'


    I have written to the Information Commissioner who deals with issues of information sharing, making it clear that I believe there is no legal basis for agreements between ACRO, the police and the RSCPA. The RSPCA is neither a public body, nor a statutory prosecutor and I am unaware of any primary legislation naming the RSPCA which allows for data sharing for purposes of criminal investigation and prosecution. It is sinister that a campaigning charity, which has shown itself to have a clear and politicised animal rights agenda, increasingly used against members of our community, has access to such information. This access could pose serious risks to individuals about whom information is gathered and we await urgent advice from the Information Commissioner.


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    Very well done, I await an update ruling that such ISA's are illegal and must be stopped forthwith and any information received so either returned or destroyed, this being overseen by an independent body. I think I have more chance of bumping in to Santa on August bank holiday.

    I really do wish you all the best with this, and would like to thank you for your effort thus far.

    John
    A clever man knows his strengths, a wise man knows his weaknesses

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    Written to my MP asking him to raise the matter with the minister and also the Crime Commissioner with a view to discipling/dismissing our Chief Constable. Same request but a different letter to four AM (Assembly Members in the devolved assembly). One AM written back to say he had asked for an opinion on the legality of this as the RSPCA is not a statutory body entitled to this information.

    Please everybody make a fuss it may not work but doing nothing will certainly not work.

    David.

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    It's okay asking for any data that the RSPCA has, to be destroyed, but I beloeve that there is little chance of that happening now.
    Now that the cat is out of the bag, they will be busy gathering any and all information that they can get hold of, and storing it in multiple ways/locations, possibly with some, if not most of those places only being recorded in someones head, so that nobody will be able to find a record of the records!

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    I am going to make anyone & everyone I can, aware of these people's misuse of the kind donations they are gifted, & try to redirect anyone I can towards the PDSA.
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    Utter lunacy!
    Have written to my MP too.
    IMO, If this goes ahead, the information will be in the Public Domain within weeks and probably circulated around the anti's for a fee?


    Also sent emails to chief constable and Police and Crime Commissioner.
    Last edited by old man; 16-08-2013 at 13:03. Reason: Added 2 additional emails sent.

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    is't funny that some time ago a member on the sd was told by essex that as per the rspca his request was overkill !! and not allowed if i remember correcly!! hmm i look farward to the outcome if its published

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAYB View Post
    Very well done, I await an update ruling that such ISA's are illegal and must be stopped forthwith and any information received so either returned or destroyed, this being overseen by an independent body. I think I have more chance of bumping in to Santa on August bank holiday.

    I really do wish you all the best with this, and would like to thank you for your effort thus far.

    John
    Sorry John I should have made it clear when i posted this that it is from the CA weekly news e-mail and not me
    I too have written to my MSP to voice my concerns regarding this sort of info being available to a "charity" and I will be contacting the charities commision to see if this is yet another nail in the RSPCAs coffin.
    Sorry again for thr initial misleading post.I was so wound up that I had to share quickly and should have edited it to suit

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    Can someone pm me a letter that I can send to my local mp.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by scubadog View Post
    Can someone pm me a letter that I can send to my local mp.
    Thanks
    +1 I have writers block at the moment

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