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    Advice for a friend please

    I have a friend who has his own land, he has had his licence for years and a couple of firearms for fox / vermin on his land.
    A couple of weeks ago, he told his wife he was going fishing for a few days and asked if she wanted to come along as he was also going to visit some old friends, as he had not been outside the house for months, but his wife said no, you go and enjoy yourself.

    so after a few days he had not bothered to phone home as he lost his mobile on the first night, the family got a bit worried and phoned the police to see if he has fell in a river or something, the police came out and removed his guns and licence and took them to the police station for safe keeping.(they did not give a receipt or any paperwork to say they had took them)

    The following day my friend returned home to find his guns missing (and an ear bashing from the wife) and found out that when the police asked was he on medication, she told them yes he was on tablets for diabetes and for depression.

    When he phoned the police to ask for his guns back they say no.

    His doctor has said that there is no risk and that the tablets were to get him up and out the house more and he had been on them for a while with no ill affects.

    My friend spoke to the police again and they said no, we have revoked your licence now and cannot have your guns back.

    So, the poor guy has done nothing wrong other than not phone home, the the cops have in affect stolen his guns and refuse to give them back.

    He has not committed any offences, nor is he a threat to himself or anyone else, so what can he do to get his guns returned as he needs them to protect his livestock ?

    Any advice would be great please.

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    Is your friend a member of BASC?

    they have a legal department that deals with this sort of thing
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    This has to be a bogus thread.
    Your friend wasn't there but they managed to gain access to his guns? This would mean they either weren't secure or somebody else gave them the keys. Either one wrong.
    He didn't tell the firearms dept he was on medication for depression. Wrong
    The police can't just seize your firearms without the license holders compliance. That is unless they ripped the safe off the wall.
    It is highly unlikely he will get his license back.
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    Have to agree teyhan, it'll be interesting to see how your friend gets on Eliminator.
    keep us posted with his progress !

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    Quote Originally Posted by teyhan1 View Post
    This has to be a bogus thread.
    Your friend wasn't there but they managed to gain access to his guns? This would mean they either weren't secure or somebody else gave them the keys. Either one wrong.
    He didn't tell the firearms dept he was on medication for depression. Wrong
    The police can't just seize your firearms without the license holders compliance. That is unless they ripped the safe off the wall.
    It is highly unlikely he will get his license back.
    There has to be more to this story; Teyhan has pointed out the likely reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teyhan1 View Post
    This has to be a bogus thread.
    Your friend wasn't there but they managed to gain access to his guns? This would mean they either weren't secure or somebody else gave them the keys. Either one wrong.
    He didn't tell the firearms dept he was on medication for depression. Wrong
    The police can't just seize your firearms without the license holders compliance. That is unless they ripped the safe off the wall.
    It is highly unlikely he will get his license back.
    Yep, some facts are missing from this story
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    Quote Originally Posted by teyhan1 View Post
    This has to be a bogus thread.
    Your friend wasn't there but they managed to gain access to his guns? This would mean they either weren't secure or somebody else gave them the keys. Either one wrong.
    He didn't tell the firearms dept he was on medication for depression. Wrong
    The police can't just seize your firearms without the license holders compliance. That is unless they ripped the safe off the wall.
    It is highly unlikely he will get his license back.

    Offence he has committed is letting someone know where keys are for safe,Surprised he hasn't had slap on wrist from firearms department

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    Teyhan i agree that there is more to this story then meets the eye but the OPs friend is under no obligation to inform his licensing department that he is on medication for depression.

    Ian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebeard View Post
    Teyhan i agree that there is more to this story then meets the eye but the OPs friend is under no obligation to inform his licensing department that he is on medication for depression.

    Ian.
    Also medication designed for treating depression can be prescribed for other purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebeard View Post
    Teyhan i agree that there is more to this story then meets the eye but the OPs friend is under no obligation to inform his licensing department that he is on medication for depression.

    Ian.
    I would assume he would have to declare it at renewal time though ?
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