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    Stalking rent

    I just wondered what other people generally pay in rent for their stalking ground, and wether they get to keep or sell the venison they harvest?

    i have stalked a farm for over ten years as mainly crop protection, i have sold some beasts and butchered some for the owners. Now the owners suddenly want some rent off me, and also a share of any venison sales. They saw how much venison was selling in the supermarkets!

    the farm in question is about 150 acres, and I normally take about 8-15 deer a year from it, if this helps!?

    thanks.

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    Might be worth discussing exactly how much they want and agreeing a sum suitable to both parties. There will always be someone ready and willing to pay more than you, so if they're after cash best strike a deal before someone else does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malxwal View Post
    Might be worth discussing exactly how much they want and agreeing a sum suitable to both parties. There will always be someone ready and willing to pay more than you, so if they're after cash best strike a deal before someone else does.
    This is good advice. I have known of stalkers losing their permission due to informal agreements, vague permission off the keeper and lack of liaison with the actual landowner. They are then surprised when they turn up and find someone else in charge of the deer. Hence the 'i'm not telling you where I stalk' mentality. If the landowner is happy with the job you are doing then you shouldn't be at risk of loosing it.

    Strike a deal with the landowner that suits you both and you should be ok. Putting a price on it it difficult as there are many factors (species present, size of ground, cull figures etc) involved and many people do it differently. Keep the landowner happy.

    All the best - M

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    dont forget to ask him how much a ton of spuds is ex farm, and then in the shop,
    the markup is frightening.
    just because venison is say 5 a lb in the shop etc.............

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    What deer are you shooting Red will be worth more than roe. FC up here were working on a 100 a deer on roe. So if you look at it that way you need to give him around 1000 for the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pointer View Post
    What deer are you shooting Red will be worth more than roe. FC up here were working on a 100 a deer on roe. So if you look at it that way you need to give him around 1000 for the ground.
    10 an acre blimey

    Id rather go down the good will ,odd jobs ,vermin control route oh and a bit of coppicing ,firewood route .
    Yours
    ​a poor Norma

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    Quote Originally Posted by norma 308 View Post
    10 an acre blimey

    Id rather go down the good will ,odd jobs ,vermin control route oh and a bit of coppicing ,firewood route .
    Yours
    ​a poor Norma
    I'd rather go down the supermarket!

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    Times change, the farmer, if he owns the farm probably has an asset valued at nearly 2000000 when the stock and equipement added in.He deserves something in return for allowing you to have a free run
    Sometimes it's money, for others its a helping hand when needed.
    Where a stalker has skills or equipement and is prepared to use them for the farmers benifit occasionaly, that can often tip the balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boarboy View Post
    I just wondered what other people generally pay in rent for their stalking ground, and wether they get to keep or sell the venison they harvest?

    i have stalked a farm for over ten years as mainly crop protection, i have sold some beasts and butchered some for the owners. Now the owners suddenly want some rent off me, and also a share of any venison sales. They saw how much venison was selling in the supermarkets!

    the farm in question is about 150 acres, and I normally take about 8-15 deer a year from it, if this helps!?

    thanks.
    Sounds like they're pulling a fast probably having heard "stories" and thinking there's loads of money in it!

    If you are doing crop protection for the farm I would say that service negates the rent they want to charge. The proceeds from the carcasses could then be fairly split 50/50. That is how many people I know in our area do it.

    The tricky bit is to explain to the landowner it's only 150 acres (without being demeaning, I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 150 acres!) and not going to be making a bundle of money but will give you the pleasure in providing the service and a little cash for each party plus , if you do it, a little venison for them as well.

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    It is nothing to do with the size it is about how many deer is taken. Anyone who takes 8 to 15 deer a year should expect to pay. If you had a joiners shop would you let someone come and make windows in it for profit every weekend for taking off some rabbits around the grounds? It is the farmers living he is there to make money.

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