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    Red dot sight for deer hunting?

    Just interested in some views/comments (preferably only if you have any experience actually using it!) for the suitabiliuty of using a red dot sight for lowland/woodland deer stalking.

    The typical evarage shooting distance here (Cotswolds, Glos.) appears to be 40-60 Yards, and I suggest many people are overscoped. A red dot sight is not popular in the UK but it is quite common in the USA and of course for driven hunting on the Continent.
    Pro's will be quick target acquisition and having less weight on your rifle.
    Cons will be low-light visibility (is it?) as most red dot sights are a x1 magnification, and of course disapproval and tut-tutting from traditionalists.
    I have also come accross the option of mounting a red dot sight on top of your scope - now that is an interesting set-up! ?
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    Used a. e o tec for deer and squirrel, no problems in low light, light, quick accusation of target. as to having no mag, at 40- 60yds it should not be a problem.

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    never used one myself but would be interested to see how you get on.

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    Seems a good idea to test

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    if you're wallet will stand it use an Eotech with a fliptoside magnifier
    you get the 1:1 red dot effect for very short range 0-50 and can add 3x mag really easily (click) for 50-100.
    pretty rugged stuff and you dont need the more expensive Eotech units as NV compatibility isnt needed. the fakeotech magnifiers on 'the bay' are around 50 and work ok on one of my rimfires. you will give away some optical quality if you go fakealike but not too much for the range.
    Alternately stick a burris fastfire ontop of a 4 or 6 mag Swarovski for a great mix of capability.

    I use a fastfire on my 6-24x50 swaro to help reaquire targets quickly when set on high mag

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    Quote Originally Posted by urx View Post
    if you're wallet will stand it use an Eotech with a fliptoside magnifier
    you get the 1:1 red dot effect for very short range 0-50 and can add 3x mag really easily (click) for 50-100.
    pretty rugged stuff and you dont need the more expensive Eotech units as NV compatibility isnt needed. the fakeotech magnifiers on 'the bay' are around 50 and work ok on one of my rimfires. you will give away some optical quality if you go fakealike but not too much for the range.
    Alternately stick a burris fastfire ontop of a 4 or 6 mag Swarovski for a great mix of capability.

    I use a fastfire on my 6-24x50 swaro to help reaquire targets quickly when set on high mag
    Thank you urx ! Can you please tell me what kind of mounting system do you need to put a Red Dot Sight on top of a scope?
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    I've used the Eotec with both 3x magnifier and night vision andi can think of 2 possible problems you may face mounting it above a scope. First being you'll need a picitinny rail about 6-8 inches long to mount them on which to then mount above a scope could cause stability issues or stress on the scope. Secondly you're gonna have a bore to scope axis of about 4 inches which would give you quite a vertical variation in POA and POI. Not a problem if you remember but if not you could find you bullet impacting quite a number in inches away from your aim point (depending on zero range)

    maybe look into quick release mounts and have the scope removeable and swap it for the Eotec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nun_hunter View Post
    I've used the Eotec with both 3x magnifier and night vision andi can think of 2 possible problems you may face mounting it above a scope. First being you'll need a picitinny rail about 6-8 inches long to mount them on which to then mount above a scope could cause stability issues or stress on the scope. Secondly you're gonna have a bore to scope axis of about 4 inches which would give you quite a vertical variation in POA and POI. Not a problem if you remember but if not you could find you bullet impacting quite a number in inches away from your aim point (depending on zero range)

    maybe look into quick release mounts and have the scope removeable and swap it for the Eotec?
    OK good point I can see your logic, but....stability issues? And what about all those scope mounted foxing and rabbiting lamps than, do they cause stability issues? Not a bit.
    If you look at some modern militairy setups than a red dot or reflex site mounted on top of a scope is seen more and more (often in a integrated unit) - the red dot sight for close-in and fast acquisition, the scope for longer range 'sniping'.
    Christmas is looming so who knows father Xmas may bring me a nice Aimpoint or likewise to try it al out...
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    I have an aimpoint mounted on the mauser now and will be useing it next week for moose hunting. If i was back in England wood land stalking i would use a scope. Plenty of flash dot type scopes on the market. would i use an aimpoint for woodland stalking? No. Aimpoint is great for driven game. I can swop in seconds from aimpoint to scope handy if shooting driven during the day and sitting out at night for boar.
    ​As for a red dot mounted on a scope i can't think of anything i would want less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagare View Post
    I have an aimpoint mounted on the mauser now and will be useing it next week for moose hunting. If i was back in England wood land stalking i would use a scope. Plenty of flash dot type scopes on the market. would i use an aimpoint for woodland stalking? No. Aimpoint is great for driven game. I can swop in seconds from aimpoint to scope handy if shooting driven during the day and sitting out at night for boar.
    ​As for a red dot mounted on a scope i can't think of anything i would want less.
    Jagare,

    Snap, that's what I do on my MO 3. For stalked I use a scope and for driven I use the Aimpoint HS1. Easy to interchange.

    Stan

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