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Thread: Minors and Firearms

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    Minors and Firearms

    As far as I know under fourteen year olds can use a sect1 "under instruction" from the FAC holder , so what is exactly "under instruction"? ,can they wander around a forest/mountainside alone so long as the FAC holder knows where they are ? or does the FAC holder have to be by their side constantly giving full supervision ? "under instruction " could be interpreted in many different ways , I cant find any definative information , anyone know ?

    Ta

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    In my mind it would be reasonable to assume that if you are instructing a minor in the use of firearms then you would be close enough to prevent dangerous conduct with the firearm. After all it will be your fac and arse on the line if **** happens.

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    As far as i know under 14 year olds can't use a section 1 firearm in the field
    But i don't mind being proved wrong!
    Cheers
    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by devon deer stalker View Post
    As far as i know under 14 year olds can't use a section 1 firearm in the field
    But i don't mind being proved wrong!
    Cheers
    Richard

    +1. Johno this subject has come up many times in the past and been debated at great length. It would be worth your while to look up previous posts and to also have a look at the BASC website on the matter. The use of firearms by young people is very tightly restricted.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devon deer stalker View Post
    As far as i know under 14 year olds can't use a section 1 firearm in the field
    But i don't mind being proved wrong!
    Cheers
    Richard

    +1 Under 14s can't use a firearm.

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    +1 Under 14's can NOT use a firearm. Not even yours under supervision in the field. They can carry one as a gillie but may not fire it. At 14 they can apply for their own FAC which if granted would allow them to use a firearm under supervision. They could not buy the weapon or ammo but can be given or lent one which would of course ave to be listed on their FAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodmaster View Post
    +1 Under 14's can NOT use a firearm. Not even yours under supervision in the field. They can carry one as a gillie but may not fire it. At 14 they can apply for their own FAC which if granted would allow them to use a firearm under supervision. They could not buy the weapon or ammo but can be given or lent one which would of course ave to be listed on their FAC.
    I dont know exactly hence the question , I was sent this by a mate whom Im having a friendly dispute with, I believe any minor should be within arms length when handling a sect1 weapon but....

    TABLE 3: APPLICATION TO MINORS OF THE FIREARMS ACTS
    Until fourteen May not have section 1 firearm, unless
    i) under instruction of certificate holder for sporting purposes;
    ii) at a shooting gallery
    May not have, or be given, air weapon or air weapon ammunition, unless
    i) under supervision of person over twenty-one;
    ii) engaging in target practice at approved rifle club of which a member;
    iii) at a shooting gallery
    May not be given section 1 firearm
    Until fifteen May not have an assembled shotgun unless
    i) under supervision of person over twenty-one;
    ii) weapon is carried in a secure gun cover
    May not be given shotgun or shotgun ammunition
    Until seventeen May not have air weapon in a public place, unless
    i) under supervision of person over twenty-one;
    ii) weapon is carried in a secure gun cover;
    iii) engaging in target practice at approved rifle club of which a member;
    iv) at a shooting gallery
    May not purchase or hire firearm and/or ammunition
    Until eighteen May not use firearm or shotgun for a purpose not authorised by the European Weapons Directive[260]

    So what is instruction in the eyes of the law ?

    http://www.publications.parliament.u...10.htm#note260
    Last edited by Johno100; 02-12-2013 at 17:04.

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    seems to be a few parts to this which differ from my recollection.
    I'll see if I can find my info. From memory I attained my SGC at 15. This allowed me to shoot on private land un-occampanied but could not buy gun or ammo. These had to be given to me by other SGC holders.
    I might be remembering wrongly so I'll check up.
    Perhaps David (basc) can put you straight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodmaster View Post
    seems to be a few parts to this which differ from my recollection.
    I'll see if I can find my info. From memory I attained my SGC at 15. This allowed me to shoot on private land un-occampanied but could not buy gun or ammo. These had to be given to me by other SGC holders.
    I might be remembering wrongly so I'll check up.
    Perhaps David (basc) can put you straight?
    Thanks , but please remember its Sect1 I`m interested in.

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    It's been asked and answered. It's all on the BASC website.

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