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    One round for 243 fox/deer

    Gents,

    I am new to CF shooting, and the help I am getting on here is invaluable - hopefully one day I will be able to give something back and not just take knowledge… Until then, this weeks question is….

    To those that shoot 243. Do you change bullet and re-zero when shooting different species (fox v deer) or stick with one round?

    At the moment I am trying PPU 100gr as a cheap intro. I know this will kill Charlie and there is no such thing as overkill, but I read that I may be better with a BT in a lighter round for more violent expansion, range and flatter trajectory?

    I am trying to be cheap, I don't have the time or inclination to re-load, so its factory all the way - for now. The PPU is nearly half the price of anything else out there. I wouldn't mind paying more, if it gets me a big advantage, if you get me.

    It might seem like an obvious/silly question to those in the know, but the vast array of ammo vs my more comfortable rimfire baffles my rather small mind.

    If it makes any difference the rifle is a Howa 1500.

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    To be honest its not worth applying too much thought to it if the deer are considered first with regards to a suitable bullet, as foxes don't have to be shot with the latest most explosive varmint bullet out there. What deer species are you shooting?

    BC is something I don't even look at in a bullet for stalking/foxing distances as you won't see any advantage within those ranges whatsoever.

    Factory rounds still need a bit of trial and error as to what your rifle shoots well with. I recently bought some 100grn Norma SP for an older model Sako 243. I have all the reloading stuff for that chambering but no brass so thought 40 factory would do and then use the cases as it's not a rifle used a lot. The accuracy was so good there is actually no point in me bothering to reload for it. That bullet will be good for roe, hinds and foxes.

    Federal 80grn SP was another factory load I used on occasion for roe and foxes, also accurate but not quite as food as the Norma.

    You out will get a lot of different suggestions but without trying a few you won't know for certain...

    Only factory rounds I didn't like from years ago were Sako as the bullets did not expand well at all with kills on red hinds being delayed. After that experience on a few I never used them again. They may well be better nowadays however...
    Last edited by jamross65; 16-12-2013 at 16:43.

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    If your are wanting to stalk on the nearby reds, I would stick with the 100s (Prvi also have a 90). I've just started reloading and am sticking with 95 noslers for an all rounder, but I have a good few Prvi 100s left and plan to pull and reload these for a consistent shot. I have a clone of your rifle.
    .243 Weatherby Vanguard Synth /.223 BRNO CZ527 Synthetic
    .22LR CZ 455 Synth / 12G Stoeger 2000 / 12G U/O Bettinsoli
    12G Zoli SBS / .410 unknown Italian

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    no fox I ever saw withstood a soft point bullet from a .243
    choose one, shoot it

    that said for my .222 which is fox first and deer second I have two loads
    52gr AMax
    60gr Soft Point

    The soft points shoot 1.5" higher than the AMax.
    I can deal with that and just zero dead on for Amax at 100yds gives me a 220yd zero for soft points

    if it was away off vertical I wouldn't bother, too much hassle

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    Thanks guys, helpful as ever.

    Primarily it will be taking Charlie, deer are a bit thin on the ground on my permissions and the FEO said I need more experience first (and land with a worthwhile number on) before he would give me deer on my license - but thats a different topic.

    What I did not want was to get used to the gun, zeroed and 'zoned in' to it with one round, only to have to change, hence choosing 100gr PPU and sticking with them for now.

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    factory ammo or home loads? cant go far wrong with 87grain vmax if you are loading your own.....

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    unless you're going for fallow/sika/red deer, then the federal 85g hollow point (scierra gameking) is an awesome round. if you prefer soft point and the ability to use on larger deer species, look no further than the 100g norma soft point.

    best to factory rounds for the .243 IMHO...mind, the bog standard 100g federal Soft Point in the blue box, has taken some big stags for me as well

    Quote Originally Posted by karlbird View Post
    Gents,

    I am new to CF shooting, and the help I am getting on here is invaluable - hopefully one day I will be able to give something back and not just take knowledge… Until then, this weeks question is….

    To those that shoot 243. Do you change bullet and re-zero when shooting different species (fox v deer) or stick with one round?

    At the moment I am trying PPU 100gr as a cheap intro. I know this will kill Charlie and there is no such thing as overkill, but I read that I may be better with a BT in a lighter round for more violent expansion, range and flatter trajectory?

    I am trying to be cheap, I don't have the time or inclination to re-load, so its factory all the way - for now. The PPU is nearly half the price of anything else out there. I wouldn't mind paying more, if it gets me a big advantage, if you get me.

    It might seem like an obvious/silly question to those in the know, but the vast array of ammo vs my more comfortable rimfire baffles my rather small mind.

    If it makes any difference the rifle is a Howa 1500.

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    +1 for the Norma 100g SP - amazing performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faceplant View Post
    +1 for the Norma 100g SP - amazing performance.

    that's one round I've successfully seen hydrostatic shock in roe with from up to 150yds...instant coma/collapse. that bullet delivers energy very effectively in my experience..but is not cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlbird View Post
    Primarily it will be taking Charlie, deer are a bit thin on the ground on my permissions and the FEO said I need more experience first (and land with a worthwhile number on) before he would give me deer on my license - but thats a different topic. .
    I love the fact that you can go out shooting at night in very tricky conditions but "you need more experience" in order to be allowed to shoot deer!!
    morons!

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