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    Land Reform

    SNP ministers warn lairds about need for 'radical' redistribution of Scottish land - Telegraph

    Really?!? What does everyone else think? I'm no pro independence but that's not saying the idea does not strikes at some of the right cords in my heart. BUT! One of the biggest arguments I've heard for independence is to take the decision making powers from Westminster and give them back to Scotland, for my neck of the woods, the Scottish environmental ministers remarks are about as detracted from highland life as any made in London - we would only loose out if a "radical redistribution of land" occurred.

    And how do we come about such shifts in landowner ship? What legal right could the government have to force major landowners to give any of it up? Will it make life better for the average working man? No. Will it appeal to the uninformed masses, probably. Will it make life considerably easier for certain local and national authorities to do as they please, oh yes...

    I smell a stinking, political agenda of a rat hiding beneath all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliS View Post
    SNP ministers warn lairds about need for 'radical' redistribution of Scottish land - Telegraph

    Really?!? What does everyone else think? I'm no pro independence but that's not saying the idea does not strikes at some of the right cords in my heart. BUT! One of the biggest arguments I've heard for independence is to take the decision making powers from Westminster and give them back to Scotland, for my neck of the woods, the Scottish environmental ministers remarks are about as detracted from highland life as any made in London - we would only loose out if a "radical redistribution of land" occurred.

    And how do we come about such shifts in landowner ship? What legal right could the government have to force major landowners to give any of it up? Will it make life better for the average working man? No. Will it appeal to the uninformed masses, probably. Will it make life considerably easier for certain local and national authorities to do as they please, oh yes...

    I smell a stinking, political agenda of a rat hiding beneath all of this.
    Has more an odour of salmon about it.

    K

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    We'll see more stuff like the Richard Attenborough sale scandal.

    He owned 1,700 acres on Bute and had secured a deal with the Marquess of Bute to sell the land for 1.6million. Along comes a "community" group, with a public funding backed offer and has their right to buy upheld at the lower price of 1.47million (a loss of 130k to the Attenboroughs). I believe the community group then sold most of it on to the Mount Stuart Estate (ie. 549 of the original 700 hectares) because they couldn't actually find enough cash to pay the bill.
    The above is exactly the way the press reported it but that is really a bit of a smokescreen and you have to dig only a little bit further to find out that the Mount Stuart Estate Belongs to the Marquess of Bute.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the idea of land reform... the clowns proposing the legislation seldom understand what happens to their proposals in the drafting of the actual laws, or for that matter the existence/prevalence of existing law. ie. What they aim at and what they hit rarely coincide.

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    More crap by the Scottish Nazi Party , they still hope for a yes vote later this year - fat chance - Salmond and his equally fishy mates are deluded .This stinks of soviet style land grabs of the early bolshevic revolution but with greedy mates of Salmond waiting in the sidelines.
    "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
    Adolph Hitler 1933

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterford103 View Post
    ...they still hope for a yes vote later this year - fat chance...
    IT'S NOT THAT IMPOSSIBLE! Even though we are hearing a lot about most being against, genuinely beleive that at the 11th hour there will be a considerable number of the undecided ticking the yes box for no other than reason than "Can't hurt'.

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    Can't wait for all the brave heart fans to vote yes ! Be loads of rifles north of the border for sale cheap soon afterwards
    There are no perfect men in this world ..... Only perfect intentions

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo1984 View Post
    Can't wait for all the brave heart fans to vote yes ! Be loads of rifles north of the border for sale cheap soon afterwards
    I've already made arrangements for my exodus.

    Just in case common sense is overwhelmed by numbnuts.

    "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
    Adolph Hitler 1933

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    Been ranting about this all afternoon.
    The airgun thing is the thin end of the wedge.........this is a bloody great wadge of it!

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    On independence, we will have either an SNP government, or a Labour one, both of which will do all they can to finish field sports in an independent Scotland. Our only protection is Westminster. The 16 year old voters from the cities wont have a clue, and neither do most of the MSP's who will nearly all be city based....and that is how it will stay for evermore, the peculiarities of Scottish demographics will see to that.

    Be careful what you wish for.

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    I will watch the programme tonight with interest and may comment further. But the preview , full of black and white newsreels of grouse shooting and salmon fishing , gave a flavour of what we can expect. A rail against land use for sporting purposes is bound to come to the fore with a cry to give the land to local communities to manage. What they seldom say is how subsidised these estates are with private funds gained to a greater extent in London's square mile. Are we to exchange private subsidy for taxpayer ones? Would the community keep the gamekeeper, stalker, ghillies ,forester etc that are employed here at the moment. It would be a disaster. Any how the idea that it's some absent Duke that owns all the land is a bit inaccurate . What about the Forestry Commission , the RSPB and the MOD? David

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