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    Question Lee Enfield No 4

    Hello, Does anyone use a Lee Enfield No 4 for stalking and if so what ammunition are they using (reloaded)?

    Thanks in anticipation.

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    Is it spoterised, or still in full military stock? I found the No 5 to be better for stalking than the full wood No 4.
    You can't say muntjac without saying, Mmmmmm.

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    Have a sporterized no4 in NZ, using 150g prvi, getting good results.

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    I shoot Hornady 174 grain RN over IMR 4350 in my Express rifles but cast in all the military.~Muir

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    Found some Federal factory loads (150gn soft points) that I can pass a DSC1 shooting test with in my SMLE.

    Same bullet in my .308 puts the deer down, no reason why it won't in the .303
    Owning a gun or knife and not using it, is akin to not sleeping with your girlfriend to keep her neat and tidy for the next bloke.

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    Parker Hale sporter in 303 , used Hornady 150 gr on everything , killed them very effectively.
    "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
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    [QUOTE=digger9523;.

    Same bullet in my .308 puts the deer down, no reason why it won't in the .303 [/QUOTE]

    Same bullet????? 308 bullets are 0.308" diameter ---- 303 bullets are 0.311".

    I think that If you're shooting 308 in a 303 you may get blow by & probably low chamber pressure. The bullet may obturate & seal the gap but it may not. (Lead muzzle loading bullets (99% pure) do seal, but are necessarily very soft to successfully seal in the bore) - I suspect jacketed bullets would be too hard & would leak.
    If you're shooting 303 in a 308 you may get excessively high pressures. Take care!!!

    I'd be interested to hear the views of those with specific experience of this.

    Ian

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    You Are correct ,the 308 in my 303 would be inaccurate and low pressure due to gas cutting, but this is the Hornady 150gr I used

    http://www.hornady.com/store/303-British-150-gr-SP/

    and very accurate and effective it was , I used the same bullet in an old Cogswell and Harrison 303 based on a BSA smle also quite accurate .

    "This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
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    I knew, still do, a guy, now aged in his seventies. that used a Parker Hale no4 Supreme for deer, bear, wild horses, and pretty much everything else. He used in it 174 grain soft point bullets loaded by Kynoch. This only because they stopped making the 215 grain soft point that he preferred.

    Be aware that the old Speer 180 grain round nose soft point DROPS LIKE A STONE past 100 yards! I tried some thirty plus years ago when that was all the only .303" bullet available to reloaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorric View Post
    Same bullet????? 308 bullets are 0.308" diameter ---- 303 bullets are 0.311".

    I think that If you're shooting 308 in a 303 you may get blow by & probably low chamber pressure. The bullet may obturate & seal the gap but it may not. (Lead muzzle loading bullets (99% pure) do seal, but are necessarily very soft to successfully seal in the bore) - I suspect jacketed bullets would be too hard & would leak.
    If you're shooting 303 in a 308 you may get excessively high pressures. Take care!!!


    I'd be interested to hear the views of those with specific experience of this.

    Ian
    I don't think he meant "the same bullet" just that they are both 150grn SP.
    Bullets I've used in mine for deer are, Sierra 150grn Pro Hunter, Norma 130grn SP and Hornady 174grn RN. All driven by various charges of Vv N140.
    I found the No4 in full wood trim to be hellishly heavy once I'd added a mount and scope, and the POI from sticks was nowhere near the POI from my zeroing session. The No5 was much better because that has a floating barrel. Since getting my 303 BSA Mod E though, my military 303s just put holes in paper now.
    If you ever get the chance to try the Norma 130grn SP bullet (no longer made) I heartily recommend it.
    You can't say muntjac without saying, Mmmmmm.

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