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    Need some back up before things go wrong. HELP

    what do you think ?
    This is being asked of a friend of mine by a local land owner/keeper?.

    Shooting at foxes at Night with a .223 and 50 Grain bullet at a range of 400 - 600 yds.

    Have told him its not realistic or safe and given I now the ground he shoots on Not Safe. but the bloke wont lisen.

    dont hold back will show him the replys and hopefully change his wild ways. He has been shooting for just over a year.

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    If you can see the fox clearly and you are confident with your rifle 400 yards is certainly on the cards for some people not me but i have watch others shoot to that range with no problems. Tell your friend to make sure there is no wind as the .223 with the 50 grn don't like the wind .

    Happy new year Aaron

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    Having read the post it seems to me the issue is SAFETY and as all the world are looking to penalise shooters i think SAFETY first all the time
    400-600 hundred yards at night, on unsuitable ground,is an accident waiting to happen,why does he need to shoot at such extreem ranges ??
    200-300 yards is more than enough at night IMHO.

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    The question to ask is.....why does he have or at least feel the need to shoot at these extreme ranges,after all the skill is getting the fox in to a reasonable distance for a safe and easy shot.If you are shooting foxes in daylight then 400 yds is well achieveable,and,you can be sure of your quarry,and,your backstop.......ergo.....Safe shot! I shoot a good deal of foxes at night and in the daytime,but,I have never needed to shoot at 400yds..............Martin.

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    If someone could specify the Lamp / Scope combination that allows me to see and identify a fox at 400 yards (never mind 600) at night, I will buy it and give it a go - and I don't mean shooting at eyes.

    In reality 200 yards is a pretty big shot in the dark and damn few shooters can do better than that.

    A standard 223/50gr combination will do 400 plus in daylight, providing the shooter is competent, and has a LRF and a scope with adjustable turrets, and providing there is no wind.

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    Our pair never shoot foxes at night without the spotter holding LRF on target. Even with a set of 1200+ bino's 300+ in the dark with a lamp is only for the absolute specialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stand Buck
    What is the issue?
    not knowing which lamp to buy

    there is actually a bigger issuse to this
    as at those sort of distances you are limiting the amount of foxes you will hit
    a 500 yard fox is a small target in the daylight and i don't think many experienced shots will ever pull that of time and time again
    but to attempt it in the lamp when you hav been shooting for just over a year (not saying you ain't capable) just your level of experience with a rifle may not upto the job as much as you think
    go stick some coke cans out at those rages and see how you do in the light first of all
    when you are confident at hitting the mark every time , then is the time to go play
    making a fox lampshy because of incompetence is just being a total asshole, as it won't be long before every time you flick a lamp around no fox will stand for a shot
    better off baiting areas up at distances of 100-250yards and lamping them giving your self a chance to actually hitting nearly every one
    because the neighbouring farmers will also be less impressed that every fox is lampshy because of your actions
    won't take long before you get a great name in and around the community
    and that name will be around a lot longer than your permission will be
    that really is something to think about
    ATB

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    [quote="177landy"]Having read the post it seems to me the issue is SAFETY and as all the world are looking to penalise shooters i think SAFETY first all the time
    400-600 hundred yards at night, on unsuitable ground,is an accident waiting to happen,why does he need to shoot at such extreem ranges ??
    200-300 yards is more than enough at night IMHO.[/qu

    you couldnt say it any better than that!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 177landy
    Having read the post it seems to me the issue is SAFETY and as all the world are looking to penalise shooters i think SAFETY first all the time
    400-600 hundred yards at night, on unsuitable ground,is an accident waiting to happen,why does he need to shoot at such extreem ranges ??
    200-300 yards is more than enough at night IMHO.
    you couldnt say it any better than that!!!

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