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    Any advice re dog with fluid in abdomen

    Hi there
    i am putting this on general discussion as I am hoping as many people as possible see it .
    Around 3 weeks ago my 5 year old black lab started looking overweight,I put it down to him not getting out much as I was really busy with work and wasn't, getting out to hill .After a wee while of reducing his food and getting out more I realised it wasn't,t fat but he actually was filling up with fluid so got him straight to vets and they checked him and confirmed it was fluid build up in abdomen(Ascites)They took him in next day and scanned and x-rayed Him and took blood and fluid samples which were sent to specialist vet,they concluded that his heart was ok but fluid showed signs of other problems so I was referred to specialist vets in Glasgow where he got a detailed scan which also showed up nothing clearly but there was slight enlargement of liver which might be normal or might not so they took more samples of blood and fluid.
    They got back to me there and have advised an exploratory op as they suspect there is a problem with veins leading to liver and to be honest were leading towards the fact that he may have a Very serious problem and have quoted me £2000 for the exploratory op.I am not insured and have paid over £1000 already and do not have the money lying about but I will get it by selling my quad as I can go stalking without a quad but I do not go stalking without the dog,he has been invaluable since I got him for telling me when there is deer about and it's payback time now but I am just wondering if anyone on here has had similar problems with their dog and what the outcome was ?Dog himself is totally normal with no sign of anything causing any distress and is his usual hyper self and the fluid build up has been very minimal since first visit to vets as they gave him tablets which has stopped and reduced the fluid Don,t make the same mistake as me either and please insure your dog.
    any info gratefully received
    thanks
    Iain
    Last edited by corky; 25-02-2014 at 03:04.

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    Have same symptoms with my 6 year old Weimaraner bitch, but she is diagnosed as being in heart failure, due to what started as a leaky heart valve 12 months ago. Apart from her getting a bit out of breath you wouldn't know she is ill. The fluid in the abdomen is a secondary symptom as other organs liver, kidneys start to suffer. Since the end of December my bitch has been to our vets a number of times and 3 visits so far to Liverpool vet hospital. Where she now goes on a monthly basis. She has so far cost over £8000 in vet bills (she is insured) and they predict less than 6 months to live.

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    I had a similar problem with one of my springers ,the vet drew the fluid off and started her on diuretics Problem solved . Cost £60.00 no specialist this or that just a quality vet that knows his business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by widows son View Post
    I had a similar problem with one of my springers ,the vet drew the fluid off and started her on diuretics Problem solved . Cost £60.00 no specialist this or that just a quality vet that knows his business.
    I hope everything works out for your dog (Corky)... Looking from the outside tho, it seems like someone (several someones) is taking advantage of your love of the dog and letting you pay the bill for some learning on their part... Hope you can find an honest vet and get things fixed (at least under control) before they get serious. Have you ever thought about visiting a vet (??) that practices homeopathics? Assuming you have one available. Good luck...

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    i have to agree with daven , it is just to easy for vets to bump up the costs wether it is needed or not , you are paying for either there lack of knowledge or practising on your dog to do exploritory opps, i am really gutted for you Corky and also Wingy , as i would have to do the same , but this insurance thing with dogs is an open ticket to be abused for some vets , hope it works out well in the end , sorry i cant be of help.

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    Lets put this in context - there are many possible causes of fluid accumulation in the abdomen and some are more easily treated than others. Some causes are expensive to investigate and treat. If you want the dog fixing it can't be done with a feel and some pills.

    Homoeopathy does not work, anyone practising it should be struck off as a con man for taking innocent people's money. Proven time and time again to do no better than no treatment.

    Main causes of ascities are heart failure (either through leaking valves and 'pump failure' or via fluid around the heart preventing it pumping properly), lack of protein (albumin) in the blood (either through increased losses through the gut or kidney, restricted dietary intake or lack of production in the liver), or infection (peritonitis) or damage to the lymphatic system putting chyle or bile into the abdomen. Things that increase the vascular resistance can cause the problem, although they would usually present in a younger dog.

    These can be a nightmare to sort on a budget.

    Hope the dog makes a good recovery.

    Section 161 of the Highways Act 1980 (England & Wales) makes it an offence to discharge a firearm within 50 ft of the centre of a highway with vehicular rights without lawful authority or excuse, if as a result a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered.

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    Have a read at this

    http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.u...paniel-problem

    This dog has come back from this twice now, the issue was the protien not being absorbed, so at the minute, he gets cottage cheese every day, what a difference. I can`t say for sure that is whats helping, but this dog is now 90% fit again. For the second time.

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    Thanks for advice guys I do appreciate and wingy I hope things go much better for you than vets prediction.As may be noticed by time of my post I am up til silly hours going through Internet but bottom line is I am no vet and I realise it is a logical progression as to why vets have came to conclusion they have but they did admit they were going through a process of elimination and they say next step is to operate and see what they can find sooner rather than later.I was giving 6 diuretics a day for first week but this has dropped to 2 in the morning and fluid is still staying off and I have been measuring his girth last couple of days and no change in size so I will carry on doing this for next few days.
    I don,t have any benchmark to say how good or not the vets that have looked at him are though I am not doubting them but my gut feeling is to leave things as they are for the next couple of days giving 2diuretics a day until they run out on Friday then see if there is a change over weekend then I am leaning towards local vets suggestion that they do exploratory op though it is old school way of full opening up rather than specialist with minimal invasive surgery but they seemed reasonably confident of seeing something if it was there and also getting liver biopsy at same time,I shall just have to wait and see-in the meantime I don't think there would be any harm in trying the cottage cheese as mentioned by Rake Aboot
    thanks again

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    Is the dogs albumin low (blood protein)?

    Section 161 of the Highways Act 1980 (England & Wales) makes it an offence to discharge a firearm within 50 ft of the centre of a highway with vehicular rights without lawful authority or excuse, if as a result a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered.

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