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    .270 for Muntjac?

    So then ladies and Gents, it's once again time for me to avail myself of your knowledge!

    I am sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer for the life of me. So would or has anyone used .270 on muntjac or roe deer?
    The reason for this question is that I am considering applying for a deer legal calibre (after DSC1) and I ideally want a true allrounder. As such .270 seems ideal; range of bullet weights and constructions, wide availability, supposedly easy to reload if I decide to get into that, and significantly cheaper to buy than .308 due to puzzling lack of love from buyers. Add in that it seems well suited for all of our deer species and for hill stalking as well as being boar legal if that ever became an issue, and it looks like I'm onto a winner! The flatter trajectory (compared to .308) may possibly make it a touch more forgiving towards errors in range estimation as well. However I understand that most stalking available locally is shorter range woodland style stuff for munties or Roe.
    I am certainly not sensitive to recoil so the only obvious disadvantages or concerns are
    1. will it be suitable for muntjac or roe or is it likely to make an unacceptable mess in terms of meat damage
    2. is it less likely to be approved by a West Mercia FEO than a .243 as I hear many seem to take the view of .243 or nowt for novices
    3. are rounds significantly more expensive than .243?

    I can understand that .243 is possibly better suited for my local stalking conditions, but I would struggle to justify 2 rifles if I ever want to branch out, both in terms of cost, and possibly in terms of getting them on ticket as well so one seems a better bet.
    Thanks very much for your help
    Alistair

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    The 270 is a good all round cal, I use one daily. The damage done to Roe is minimal. You have a good choice of ammo for it, 110 grain up to 140 grain. Most gunshops will keep ammo for it so you should never be stuck. If you do start stalking the larger species it will cope with them no problem.

    Al

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    1) Nothing wrong with the calibre, I have shot munties and roe with a 30.06, tip construction does damage not size. I see about 150 deer shot each year and a 243 with the wrong tip will ruin more meat than the larger calibre.
    2) Few FEO have any knowledge about firearms, the may say the smaller bullet is safer, if they do ask them which one would they prefer to be shot with. They will say neither, precisely no calibre is safe if used incorrectly .
    3) May be a little, but if you buy a 2.43 you will want a larger calibre before long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    So then ladies and Gents, it's once again time for me to avail myself of your knowledge!

    I am sure this has been asked before, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer for the life of me. So would or has anyone used .270 on muntjac or roe deer?
    The reason for this question is that I am considering applying for a deer legal calibre (after DSC1) and I ideally want a true allrounder. As such .270 seems ideal; range of bullet weights and constructions, wide availability, supposedly easy to reload if I decide to get into that, and significantly cheaper to buy than .308 due to puzzling lack of love from buyers. Add in that it seems well suited for all of our deer species and for hill stalking as well as being boar legal if that ever became an issue, and it looks like I'm onto a winner! The flatter trajectory (compared to .308) may possibly make it a touch more forgiving towards errors in range estimation as well. However I understand that most stalking available locally is shorter range woodland style stuff for munties or Roe.
    I am certainly not sensitive to recoil so the only obvious disadvantages or concerns are
    1. will it be suitable for muntjac or roe or is it likely to make an unacceptable mess in terms of meat damage
    2. is it less likely to be approved by a West Mercia FEO than a .243 as I hear many seem to take the view of .243 or nowt for novices
    3. are rounds significantly more expensive than .243?

    I can understand that .243 is possibly better suited for my local stalking conditions, but I would struggle to justify 2 rifles if I ever want to branch out, both in terms of cost, and possibly in terms of getting them on ticket as well so one seems a better bet.
    Thanks very much for your help
    Alistair
    308 standard get ammo from any good gun shop little meat damage good all rounder from the smallest to the biggest deer
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    I pick snowdrops with a JCB...

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    Deer legal is deer legal. Ask a dead deer what it was shot with.

    Rifle builders will always try and sell you a better mousetrap but that's just marketing, so if you like .270 get one. It's entirely a personal preference.
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    Having watched 48/50kg Fallow fall straight over at 230 yards when shot with my .243 last weekend then any slight notion of getting a second rifle faded very fast....


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    Quote Originally Posted by RED-DOT View Post
    I pick snowdrops with a JCB...
    I take your point, and maybe it is slightly overkill, but that wasn't the question. The question was ' is there any Ballistic reason why I shouldn't us the calibre vis a vis meat damage'. Anyway, I'm not entirely convinced that a degree of overkill is such a bad thing. After all there are always those saying that .222 is not a suitable cartridge due to marginal performance despite it knocking over plenty of deer. Stalking, in the end is about playing the averages; shoot often enough and you are eventually going to make a poor shot and on that day you are, purely from an ethical and tracking point of view, going to be glad of the wider wound channel and shock effect of the larger round. The question is whether you view this safety margin as being worth the possible loss of meat from all the other animals that you do drop on the spot, if of course, and I am not yet convinced, there is actually any additional loss in the first place!
    Alistair

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    If you want a .270 and have made your mind up then get one as it will certainly kill the deer.
    trajectory advantages of .270 over any other deer legal chambering at normal stalking ranges are usually exaggerated (.308 really isn't that much worse in real terms).
    youncan have bad meat damage with whatever round you choose if shot placement is off, that said it has been found by many that slow and heavy rounds are better for meat conservation.

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    Always interesting to hear other peoples views
    Thanks to all who posted, I think I will go for the .270 then.
    Alistair

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