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    dead deer

    hi all im a train driver from glasgow ,over the past 2 or 3 weeks during the snow iv counted roughly 30 to 35 dead roe deer killed by trains 3 alone today ,its not unusual to see them at any time but with this snow they stick out a mile ,now im talking about astretch of line from glasgow to edinburgh glasgow to dunblane glasgow to falkirk not a lot of track when you think of the rest of the track in britain so how many deer ar possibly being killed by trains
    you here about fatalitys through rta ,that can be calculated by insurance, police reports ,etc but has anybody (dcs,bds,basc)ever tried to work that one out on the other hand iv seen 14 fox and 3 buzzards

    cheers tam

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    They must be getting confused by the wrong sort of snow............. or are they attracted by the fluffiness of the snow??
    Sorry, couldn`t resist.
    Seen a few dead dogs on the line, as a kid that really shook me up.
    I can imagine you`ve seen some sights in your job.
    basil.

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    I saw a train coming in to Darlington a few weeks ago with a big dent in the front and clarret all up the front; god alone knows what it hit.

    Dave

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    I guess you can't really swerve to avoid them in a train

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    Boom boom

    I was thinking this the other day, I was looking though the BUGLE data base analyzing Reliability data. I could run a count when I am back in work and get exact figures of reported deer collisions for the FSR fleet in Scotland.

    ATB

    Tahr

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    I'm afraid that I don't know anything about railways but this is quite interesting. Are the dead deer hit by trains or electrocuted? I think electrocution was a big problem for badgers. JC

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC275
    I'm afraid that I don't know anything about railways but this is quite interesting. Are the dead deer hit by trains or electrocuted? I think electrocution was a big problem for badgers. JC
    I'd think it was a bigger problem for giraffes

    Mainline stuff uses overhead power cables unlike the tube...

    Often seen "rail-kill" in stations - pressumably where it's dropped of the train as it's come in to stop - usually pheasants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thar
    Boom boom

    I was thinking this the other day, I was looking though the BUGLE data base analyzing Reliability data. I could run a count when I am back in work and get exact figures of reported deer collisions for the FSR fleet in Scotland.

    ATB

    Tahr
    blimey
    never gave that a thought
    with my uncle next week
    will ask him the same thing
    ATB

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    Quote Originally Posted by JC275
    I'm afraid that I don't know anything about railways but this is quite interesting. Are the dead deer hit by trains or electrocuted? I think electrocution was a big problem for badgers. JC
    Hi JC

    Railways infrastructure is not really my area of expertise, however in Scotland I believe all electrification lines are overhead, these carry 25,000 volts AC. Deer will be safe from these, but as said Giraffes might have a problem. As an aside you do not have to touch these lines to get electrocuted, under the right/wrong conditions this current with “jump” a Meter to kill you.

    In the South of England and around Liverpool some rail lines run what is called a “third rail” this looks like another rail next to the running rail this carries 650 to 750 volts DC, this is what would kill badgers as their bodies would touch the electrified rail while their legs were in contact with the ground. I would guess that most deer would just step over the third rail without harm most of the time. The London under ground also uses a third rail system.

    The deer killed in Scotland will be because of collisions with rolling stock, when a train collides with any object including deer the driver has to fill in a report in his “driver’s book”. Maintenance staff will then carry out a inspection to evaluate what damage has occurred to the train before it is returned to service. The damage a large deer can cause can be quite considerable to a train travelling at speed, ripping of brake lines etc.

    Rail rolling stock must kill thousands of pheasants each year; I always assume that they come onto the tracks after grit.

    ATB

    Tahr

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    dead deer

    the lines im driving over are not electrified so all the kills will be through collision with trains ,unless it was something the size of a large red stag i think a lot of drivers dont even bother to report these strikes the only damage is to the deer as for pheasants they must be the most stupid birds alive ,they just seem suicidal they run one way turn around fly back towards the train ,BANG and they always seem to be in 2s or 3s and its BANG,BANG,BANG if i had penny for every pheasant i killed in 30 years of driving id be a bloody rich man

    tahr look forward to you findings but as i say most deer strikes wont be reported

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