If anyone knows a person who should be shooting more but can neither afford to buy factory ammo, nor buy reloading equipment, consider pointing them towards the simple Lee "Classic" loader. I just got done coaching a fellow through 40 rounds of 30-06 with a total equipment outlay of $40 US. We loaded Speer 180 grain HP bullets over 50.5 grains of IMR 4350 and had a great time doing it. It took 2 hours, 10 minutes and that included all instruction time. Everything, including the Lee trimmer, chamfer tool, primer pocket cleaner, 1 pound of 4350 and 1000 primers fit into a shoe box. This guy was so pleased at how easy it was and how relatively inexpensive it was that I finally had to toss him out into the cold to chill his babbling enthusiasm.~Muir