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    Buck Season

    Well I was out this morning and saw a nice buck still in velvet and still tight Do members wait for the good bucks to clean or do you shoot them from the first of April no matter what.

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    April regardless weather velvet or not don't collect heads or antler so makes no difference.

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    Much better to shoot them in velvet before they have had chance to fray any trees! If you wait til they are in hard antler, then you are little more than a trophy hunter and NOT a deer manager!

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    Depends on the ground and landowners wish.
    On my syndicate spot if in season I would shoot it, there is no issues over tree / crop protection and if I don't shoot it the next guy will.
    On a small wood / plantation I try to leave 1 or 2 nice bucks and take any smaller ones if in velvet it's better before they start to trash the young trees cleaning the velvet off, that's what the land owner expect of me
    Wingy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey Spanker View Post
    Much better to shoot them in velvet before they have had chance to fray any trees! If you wait til they are in hard antler, then you are little more than a trophy hunter and NOT a deer manager!
    100% correct. Nothing is truely gained by prolonging the cull. Early culling can be a advantage as others may move in before the rut.

    Any one seeing any velvet shedding.

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    Normally don't start till May, but some clean bucks seen by clients when at the does in early March so they are coming back mid April this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pointer View Post
    Well I was out this morning and saw a nice buck still in velvet and still tight Do members wait for the good bucks to clean or do you shoot them from the first of April no matter what.
    Ah Davie your having a quandary over your own mind and the rights and wrongs, simple work within the bounds of the law use the various acts in the Deer legislation ,that's why they are there and shoot them when you see them.

    You have to put perspective on this, the only way bucks get rid of velvet is to rub which causes fraying, which shows that you the stalker are not on the case, if there is mass amount of damage occurring in forests and plantations, the very reason the legislation is laid down for the stalker/ land manager to be able the curb the problem before it costs money ,by rendering crops useless .

    Shoot them this is the main time/ part of the year when damage occurs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by widows son View Post
    Ah Davie your having a quandary over your own mind and the rights and wrongs, simple work within the bounds of the law use the various acts in the Deer legislation ,that's why they are there and shoot them when you see them.

    You have to put perspective on this, the only way bucks get rid of velvet is to rub which causes fraying, which shows that you the stalker are not on the case, if there is mass amount of damage occurring in forests and plantations, the very reason the legislation is laid down for the stalker/ land manager to be able the curb the problem before it costs money ,by rendering crops useless .

    Shoot them this is the main time/ part of the year when damage occurs .
    All true, but it does depend on your situation, most of mine were shot with clients very little if any damage mature woodland and rough grazing hardly any crops in any case roe damage to crops in spring and summer is negligible being browsers not grazers.

    However due to gales over the last two winters have had quite a bit of tree damage resulting in several thousand acres of replanting no fencing as the cost is too prohibitive.

    So change of strategy called for, ah well it will keep me from getting bored.

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    If it is a good buck? As a deer manager you should let it pass on it good genes. If it is not a good buck shoot it when you want in season it makes no difference. But if you shoot a good buck early in my eyes you are a deer killer not a manager which is fine to be that way if that is what the landowner wants or if you are only interested in money or venison BUT THAT IS NOT DEER MANAGEMENT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete6.5 View Post
    If it is a good buck? As a deer manager you should let it pass on it good genes. If it is not a good buck shoot it when you want in season it makes no difference. But if you shoot a good buck early in my eyes you are a deer killer not a manager which is fine to be that way if that is what the landowner wants or if you are only interested in money or venison BUT THAT IS NOT DEER MANAGEMENT
    Ah but how do you know its a good buck? by his general body shape and condition? that will give you a fair idea of his age and whether he is a decent buck, by his antlers ? no a bucks antlers while tending to keep the same basic shape can change drastically in size from year to year last years big 6 pointer can easily be a four this year and vise versa so any attempt to judge a buck purely be his antlers is flawed to know that its a good buck you will need to have known him from several years,and if you have known him for several years he will have already passed on his genes.

    To really judge the bucks on your ground you need to get to know them and that can take several years even then you will encounter bucks you have never seen before.

    Even then its only half the story as the does genes are just as important when it comes producing youngsters
    some experts in fact think the genes of the doe are more important.

    How do you judge a good doe?

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