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    Need Loads, Please.

    I just got a CZ 527 American Varmint in 204 Ruger and am about to reload for it. I need the most accurate loads for this rifle, please, using 32 and 40 grain V-Maxes and using a Remington 7.5 primer. Oh, and should I go with Lee Dies? or use the Forster Competition dies I bought at the time I got the rifle? Should I just wait until I get the Lee Factory Crimp did before even beginning?? Oh, if it makes a difference on the loads, it's got a walnut stock and CZ rings.~Muir

    PS: Only kidding about needing loads. But I am about to reload for the new bang stick thanks to the generosity of MarinePMI who sent me 50 pcs of Hornady 204 Brass last week. I'm going to prep the cases tonight but wait til Tuesday to reload as I will have the Factory Crimp Die by then. Can't wait to hit a prairiedog with it.The Marine says I'll abandon my .223 in favor of it but I doubt it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muir View Post
    I just got a CZ 527 American Varmint in 204 Ruger and am about to reload for it. I need the most accurate loads for this rifle, please, using 32 and 40 grain V-Maxes and using a Remington 7.5 primer. Oh, and should I go with Lee Dies? or use the Forster Competition dies I bought at the time I got the rifle? Should I just wait until I get the Lee Factory Crimp did before even beginning?? Oh, if it makes a difference on the loads, it's got a walnut stock and CZ rings.~Muir
    As you obviously have little idea of what you are doing,it would probably be best if you were to buy and read a few decent re-loading manuals, before pestering us with silly questions

    Neil.

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    My .204 will put 10 shots of my favourite homeloads into a single .15" hole at 300yds.

    I'm using 40 grain Q-tips over a lightly compressed 45gr of Bullseye. This load is not only accurate, it even removes the primers for you.

    P.S. This load is safe in MY rifle, you must start low and get worked up.

    And buy several reloading manuals, take the average of the recommendations and then start 10% below this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavierdoc View Post
    My .204 will put 10 shots of my favourite homeloads into a single .15" hole at 300yds.

    I'm using 40 grain Q-tips over a lightly compressed 45gr of Bullseye. This load is not only accurate, it even removes the primers for you.

    P.S. This load is safe in MY rifle, you must start low and get worked up.

    And buy several reloading manuals, take the average of the recommendations and then start 10% below this.
    Look. Are you going to help me or not?? I said I wanted the most accurate load for MY rifle. And we can't get the 40 grain Q-tips at the moment. Too much panic buying.

    Who needs reloading manuals when you've got the internet??~Muir

    PS: Does the addition of an extra QD swivel up front change the barrel harmonics enough to influence the primer choice?? Better take that into consideration. Maybe someone could run that through Quick Load??
    Last edited by Muir; 04-05-2014 at 00:12.

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    Don't worry if you can't get Q-tips; with the 40gr V-max using the same recipe I had a two shot group approaching sub-MOA. These .204Rugers just plain shoot!

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    I'm encouraged. Is there a member in the Wyoming area that can come by and set up my dies for me? And maybe my powder measure?~Muir

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    I think you have probaly forgot more about reloading than most know, sd guru

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muir View Post
    I'm encouraged. Is there a member in the Wyoming area that can come by and set up my dies for me? And maybe my powder measure?~Muir
    You don't really need a powder measure. Each one of those little grains of powder is, well, one grain of powder. Just count out however many grains of powder your recipe requires and you're sorted.

    Obvious when you think about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Muir View Post
    PS: Does the addition of an extra QD swivel up front change the barrel harmonics enough to influence the primer choice?? Better take that into consideration. Maybe someone could run that through Quick Load??

    A simple check to see if the harmonics are altered by the swivel:

    1. Check the firearm is unloaded
    2. Carefully blow across the muzzle, like a Venezuelan pan-piper.
    3. Listen to the tone produced and write it down (use the SAAMI-recognised do-re-mi nomenclature.)
    4. Affix the new swivel and repeat the exercise.
    5. A change in tone indicates a change in the barrel harmonics.

    If the above confirms a change, Try hammering in a magnum primer. The extra oomph allows the resonating oscillations of the barrel to jump the QD to get to the higher accuracy node.
    Last edited by xavierdoc; 04-05-2014 at 08:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xavierdoc View Post
    You don't really need a powder measure. Each one of those little grains of powder is, well, one grain of powder. Just count out however many grains of powder your recipe requires and you're sorted.

    Obvious when you think about it.




    A simple check to see if the harmonics are altered by the swivel:

    1. Check the firearm is unloaded
    2. Carefully blow across the muzzle, like a Venezuelan pan-piper.
    3. Listen to the tone produced and write it down (use the SAAMI-recognised do-re-mi nomenclature.)
    4. Affix the new swivel and repeat the exercise.
    5. A change in tone indicates a change in the barrel harmonics.

    If the above confirms a change, Try hammering in a magnum primer. The extra oomph allows the resonating oscillations of the barrel to jump the QD to get to the higher accuracy node.
    Gosh! Thanks! You make it all sound so simple! I've got to find my tweezers and magnifying glass. And I'll lay off the cigarettes for a bit so I can get up the wind to blow the pitch. You've saved me a world of grief! ~Muir

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    If you can get your hands on them Muir the 20 cal Sierra bullets are the best for accuracy, 39 grainers are the most accurate I have tried the 32's weren't far behind, the hornadys and remingtons (same thing I believe) were not as good although I have not found anything that wouldn't shoot under an inch. The nosler 32's and barnes grenade 26's were ok but not in the same league as the sierras which were pretty accurate across all the loads that I tried.. This is all in the VarTarg of course in a 1:10 twist 21" barrel, but might be useful info for you.

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