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Thread: Buying a firearm through RFD transfer

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    Buying a firearm through RFD transfer

    Could anyone tell me about buying a firearm through guntrader for example, or from a private person, by transfer through an `RFD . What happens if it is a lemon. What rights does the purchaser have?

    I have only ever bought guns over the counter before and this seems a bit risky but could be cheaper than travelling hundreds of miles to buy it.

    Can you take to a range and try it?

    Help!

    It would be helpful to hear about your experiences

    Ian

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    Good question, I am looking for a replacement .270 but am not sure how it works.
    As you say what if it is not what you want?
    How do you make the payment? is it before its sent , after you decide to take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF View Post
    Could anyone tell me about buying a firearm through guntrader for example, or from a private person, by transfer through an `RFD . What happens if it is a lemon. What rights does the purchaser have?

    I have only ever bought guns over the counter before and this seems a bit risky but could be cheaper than travelling hundreds of miles to buy it.

    Can you take to a range and try it?

    Help!

    It would be helpful to hear about your experiences

    Ian
    I would imagine Distance Selling Regs apply. Be clear, in writing, about the terms under which you are wanting to purchase the rifle. Ship it somewhere reliable (Steve Beaty at Ivythorn in your neck of the woods) and have them look it over with you. As an example Steve all but insists you shoot a rifle with him before you buy it!!
    Nooooooooooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!! Our main weapon is.........

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    If you buy from a private seller and you have zero come backs ,when an RFD is only acting as a handling/forwarding agent he has no responsibility for the guns condition, plus 99 times out of 100 warranties are not transferable , that`s why many used guns /optics for sale by privateers on this forum and others are heavily over priced in my view , if you buy from a trader he is responsible for ensuring goods are of a merchantable quality , new or used, hence you pay a bit more.Caveat Emptor

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    L1A1, I suppose you pay by credit card, doesn't that provide some protection?
    Perhaps I need to get my bike clips out and go and see.
    Eric, do you think Steve Beaty will do that with a gun he just acting to transfer?

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    I rather think that when buying things by what amounts to "mail order" from private individuals, whether it be something firearms related or not, I employ the simple rule that I will not buy anything for more money than I can afford to lose.

    To be fair, the great majority of people are still honest and you could count yourself very unlucky to come unstuck. I understand quite a few RFD's will send guns on spec to another RFD, so you don't have to pay upfront. Although you may still have the RFD charges to pay to dissuade those buyers who are not serious.

    Having said the above, I haven't bought any firearm I haven't seen in the flesh. Unless it's something particularly rare, I imagine most things could be found within a reasonable travelling distance. Although travelling adds cost, it adds peace of mind and you could always make it into a bit of a road trip and incorporate something else into the day.

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    An individual does not have a credit card machine, PayPal probably wont want to be involved.
    Buying from a RFD would be different.
    Distance selling regs only apply to commercial not private sales.
    Has anyone done a RFD to RFD private sale and can tell us how it works?

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    I have done a few private sales quite recently to S Ireland, Switzerland and in the UK.
    The decision to buy and under what terms or guarantee is decided between each individual, description, photographs etc and once the decision is made payment method is arranged and carried out.
    You then contact your RFD, the other party then contacts his RFD and the RFD's contact each other and agree to receive or despatch and at what cost to the seller and buyer, which is paid by them.
    The seller then takes the firearm to his despatching RFD who takes it off his FC, packs it and then despatches it.
    When it arrives at the receiving RFD, he informs the prospective buyer who then produces his FC with the authority to acquire. It is then put on his FC by the receiving RFD and that is the end of it.
    If it turns out to be a lemon it is between you and the other person, both RFD's are purely there to act for the disposal from one FC and Insertion on the other FC.

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    Once the seller has it taken off their cert they cannot legally take it back
    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_ B View Post
    Once the seller has it taken off their cert they cannot legally take it back
    Mark
    Just to clarify, 'once the RFD representing the buyer and acting as a carrier' has taken it off your FC the only way to get it back is to have a variation authorising the purchase of another of the same calibre.

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