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    .243 and .270 or .25-06

    Thinking of selling my Browning A bolt in .243 and my Euro bolt in .270 and buying a .25-06, my thinking is buying a rifle to do the job of the two mentioned, foxing and stalking, glad to hear peoples opinion on the .25-06 and would this seem a sensible option over a .243 and a .270?
    Thanks Jase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jase kaye View Post
    Thinking of selling my Browning A bolt in .243 and my Euro bolt in .270 and buying a .25-06, my thinking is buying a rifle to do the job of the two mentioned, foxing and stalking, glad to hear peoples opinion on the .25-06 and would this seem a sensible option over a .243 and a .270?
    Thanks Jase.
    Jase. I think you are at a good place already. It's handy to have a spare rifle. Regards JCS

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    This is, on American threads, an old chestnut. Foxes is foxes...but what size deer will you be stalking and at what distance shooting the foxes?

    Simply put eventually someone (maybe even myself) will point out that there is nothing that the 25-06 does with a 100 grain bullet that the 243 Winchester or 6mm Remington doesn't do better (as the range extends and the bulets SD comes into consideration) with the same 100 grain weight bullet or that the 25-06 does with the 117 grain bullet that the 270 Winchester or 280 Remington doesn't do better with the heavier 130 grain or 140 grain weight bullet.

    So it is a "Jack of All Trades". But that doesn't mean that it isn't a "Master of None". Only you can decide that based on the likely quarry that you shoot.

    But there is a lot to be said for ONE BULLET ONE LOAD for all circumstances in that the skill and intimate knowledge of the rifle and loading you gain on the foxes will stand you well when it comes to the stalking of deer.

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    stick with what you have or scrap the 243 and use the 270 for everything... If you ever go pig hunting (at least in germany) you can use the 270... If you want a second gun, get a 30.06...

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    .243 and .270 are an age old partnership of short and long action

    IMO stick with them
    You have a pair of rifles that will shoot anything between 55gr and 180gr bullets

    Foxes get shot with soft points all the time but I will always have a BT load for maximum destruction when specifically shooting foxes and an SP load for deer

    25-06 is OK but I prefer a heavier bullet to give me some options if shooting larger deer potentially at range (not going to get into the old chestnut of "x cartridge for reds".
    No amount of confidence makes up for physics

    .270 is also the minimum calibre for a number of things in some areas whether it be night shooting, boar or just bragging rights...

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    a man with a 270 doesn't need a 25.06. With 120 grain bullets it's no less barky or kicky than a .270. with lighter bullets it's no flatter than 243 with bullets of equivalent SD and BC.

    To be honest with 150 grain TSXs or partitions one won't feel the extra power of even a 30.06 until you're dealing with animals of 300-400 kilos or over.

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    I have a .25-06 as my main rifle for foxes and all UK deer and would actually agree with all of the above. .243 and .270 are both great rounds with much factory ammo available and cover all quarry species in the UK. I certainly wouldn't advise moving from those two calibres to a .25-06 solely if you do not load your own or if you want to shoot boar at some stage (and remember boar are becoming ever more prevalent by the year in the UK).

    I take the approach endfield refers to: "there is a lot to be said for ONE BULLET ONE LOAD for all circumstances in that the skill and intimate knowledge of the rifle and loading you gain on the foxes will stand you well when it comes to the stalking of deer". However with the shortage of reloading components generally and other wildcat calibres becoming more popular, the constant availability of .25-06 bullet heads and suitable powders can be hard to find, let alone a constant supply of the same factory ammo that your rifle likes.

    It sounds like I'm doing the calibre down - I don't mean to. I love the .25-06 but I reload, am fiendishly organised at gathering the components and shoot red, fallow, roe and muntjac and foxes and long range targets. When mates ask if they should get a .25-06, I invariably say no, get a .270 because its easier.

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    I don't believe in the 1 gun idea. But I think it's impossible to use 1 bullet for everything. A bullet good for foxes makes a mess when it hits heavy bone. I like a maximum expansion of 2 or 3 times calibre after hitting the heavy shoulder bones. For this you need a Nosler Partition , Barnes (T)TSX , Lapua Naturalis, ....
    One calibre maybe ? One load/bullet not good. I would keep the 243 and 270, almost perfect combination.

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    A light rifle and a big game rifle, with about the same trajectory, is a good pair. Even better, a threesome.
    .243 and .270
    .257 Roberts or .250 Savage , .308 Win or .30-06... and .375 H&H
    .25-06 and a 7mm RM or .300 mag

    The .25-06, like the .257R, is neither fish nor fowl, not a true varmint nor true big game cartridge.
    In its niche, it is spendid.
    Last edited by Southern; 22-05-2014 at 13:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jase kaye View Post
    Thinking of selling my Browning A bolt in .243 and my Euro bolt in .270 and buying a .25-06, my thinking is buying a rifle to do the job of the two mentioned, foxing and stalking, glad to hear peoples opinion on the .25-06 and would this seem a sensible option over a .243 and a .270?
    Thanks Jase.
    I have a 25-06 its a very accurate flat shooting round I use 100 grain nosler bt I use this for all deer, I also use my 300win mag with 180 grain nosler partions for stags and pigs

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