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Thread: Rifle, Scope and Bino's..help!!

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    Rifle, Scope and Bino's..help!!

    Hi folks,

    Firstly, sorry for another "what" type thread, but there isn't a better place to ask than the good number of guys and girls who are out ther doing it and not keyboard hunters!!

    I have recently been offered a wonderful opportunity to assist a local part time stalker to look after a plantation development scheme (which he holds the sole stalking rights to) which is currently scheduled to last until at least 2014/15 for the replanting phases etc

    It is mostly lowland/hill type forestry, some already opened and cleared, and some mature dense areas which is surrounded with open moor edging, and Roe will be our primary target.

    Now, I have a list of things which I am moving slowly ahead with ie DSC1 & FAC etc & I know it’s jumping the gun somewhat, however, the hardwear bit is probably the bit we all like!!!

    I would value your opinions (Pro’s and Con’s) on my rough list for my 3 main items (assuming my FAC is approved) and to see how suitable you think they’d be :

    Rifle:
    .243 Tikka T3 Synthetic/Stainless, or
    .243 Sako 85 Synth/Stnless

    (with moderator for either)

    Do I go for the Tikka T3 and put the price difference towards my scope budget & get the the best possible scope I can? What is the old saying? “ buy a scope and a gun with the change”

    Also, what’s your opinions on a suitable moderator for the above rifle? Ase type or T8??

    Scope
    :
    S&B Fixed Mag 8 x 56??
    Oh here we go…this is where my knowledge is severely limited, I have been looking at various post’s on here and although I have nothing to base this on my initial thought was to keep it simple but efficient with a fixed scope?
    What’s the general consensus of this amount of mag etc for woodland type dawn/dusk stalking?

    Or should I be looking at variable power and a Swaro or a Leupold?
    I appreciate there are a multitude of opinions on scopes and having read all the “Which Scope” threads, I am still pretty much none the wiser!!

    Binos:
    Minox HG 8.5 x 43
    As I won’t be on the hill day in day out and more of a recreational assistant than full on stalker, I was looking at the Minox’s as a decent benchmark "recreational" pair of glasses, again I know this is a widely discussed point but again I’d appreciate any input.

    What i'm trying to say is this, basically, I’m looking to put together a long term, good standard, basic kit so I can then spend my time wisely by getting to know the rifle etc. in the knowledge that my equipment is more than proficient for the task in hand before I even venture out to start shooting beasts

    It’s a bit of a minefield to be honest but, if I can get a decent set up for a modest price for the 3 main items above, I would be happy with that.

    List is by no means definitive, just my initial thoughts

    Thanks in advance

    Rigboot

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    I am far from experienced in this sport, however I was in the same position as you the 2nd half of last year.

    I went for a Tikka t3 (6.5x55) with a T8 Mod already fitted with a new 8x56 Hungarian S&B Scope, the rifle and mod were 2nd hand but in as new condition all in for £1050 including a set of rings and a rifle slip.

    Binos I brought a pair of Bushnell H2o to start with, however I picked up a pair of Swarvo 7x42 SLC for £700 used twice in one week by the previous owner.

    I asked on here ( I think) about Hungarian and German S & B scopes and apparently the difference is not worth worrying about.

    Check Gun Trader for rifles.

    HTH

    Gareth

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    if it helps i bought minox 8.5x43 hg from clifton cameras for £380 which should leave you some good money for your rifle + mod,good luck.

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    Hi Rigboot,

    I will leave it to others to advise on the rifle but I do feel that you would do well to go for a fixed-mag scope for the type of work you describe. Keep it simple - you are not going to be trying fancy or long-range shooting for a while! With an 8x56, a deer is going to fill your scope at shorter ranges - and magnify any "wobbles" significantly. You might actually be better with a 6x42 (old gits like me still stalk happily with a 4x32!). Any suitable S&B/Zeiss/Swaro etc scope will do you well.

    For the binos, the Minox are great but have a look through their BV 8x42 before you spend the extra on the HG 8.5x43 - they are sturdy and great value.

    Hope this helps.

    Graeme

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    Well gents,

    Lots to think about and I must thank you for taking the time to reply.

    It all certainly helps and I will indeed check out the suggested alternatives too.

    The old information superhighway is taking a pounding with the research i'm doing at the moment but thanks to the forum, there's not many places I need to look for assistance.

    Thanks again and keep the suggestions coming!!

    Rb

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    All good advice - but do consider a larger calibre.

    Not because you need it for Roe - but the day may well come when you appreciate a bit more authority.

    My girlfriend (eight stone, dripping wet) started hunting with a .308 and years later, it is still her favourite. Since the day she considered Roe to be the prime target, she has taken Moose, Wild Boar, Kudu etc with the same 'do it all' calibre. The same rifle has proved ideal for Spitting Cobra and Beaver!

    Downloaded or moderated, it will have less recoil than a standard .243 - but with the option of better performance IF required.

    Remember, you can make the big ones act like little ones - but not the other way around!

    Rgds

    Ian

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    Graeme M is right.
    I've had a Zeiss variable on my Heym for over 30 years how many times has it been of 6 power? Never. I have bought a S&B All singing, all danceing scope for my Mauser I turn the power down most of the time and the rest os the time its on 6 power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanF

    Remember, you can make the big ones act like little ones - but not the other way around!

    Rgds

    Ian

    Like that quote Ian, I hear what you are saying with repesct to a larger calibre.

    This was the calibre suggested to me by the stalker who's land i'll be on so I am taking his lead on this point really, he knows what works best for his ground ,although I do understand the varied opinions for larger (or sometimes smaller) calibres being more versatile for Roe and other species.

    Personally, I'll see how I get on with the .243 and be happy putting in the hours to get familiar with the rifle and as proficient as possible but, you never know, maybe ask for a variation in the future!!!


    Cheers

    Rb

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    You could apply for 2 calibres on you application?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagare
    Graeme M is right.
    I've had a Zeiss variable on my Heym for over 30 years how many times has it been of 6 power? Never. I have bought a S&B All singing, all danceing scope for my Mauser I turn the power down most of the time and the rest os the time its on 6 power.

    Good stuff Jagare, I was thinking of Graeme's reply and looking at the available 6 x S&B's
    Exactly why I asked the question for feedback like this, I want to buy right once!!

    Thanks

    Rb

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