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    .22CF for Deer

    Afternoon gents,
    I looking to get a .22CF for foxing and roe, mainly roe but only have experience with a 22-250, used a friends occasionaly.
    I use a .308win for Larger deer and just got rid of my .243 to move down to a .22CF.
    Fancy a .222 but unfamiliar with sensible ranges etc to be shooting roe at, so any feedback would be great.
    Cheers

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    Bewsher be one of the men you need a chat with mate

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    In the bad old days in Ireland, we were restricted to centrefire .22's for all deer stalking. I had a .22-250 for a good few years, good round on even big Sika but bullet placement vital. I still use a 5.6x57RWS occasionally. Good with a 74 grain bullet though rifles and ammo hard to source. The .222 has a great reputation though I have only ever fired one a few times. Can vouch for the .22-250 though... a friend of mine still swears by his, raised eyebrows at his HCAP shooting test!

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    morning, an a little biased on this but have gone through the same as you
    I similarly ditched my .243 as a "one gun roe and fox rifle" the .222 works a treat
    Was nervous as hell with my first .222 roe as people had said...
    "oh they pencil if you dont get the bullet right",
    "they don't penetrate if you hit bone",
    "oh they always run",
    "oh they don't have enough energy for roe unless its short range"
    and the classic....."it's not a humane choice"

    Having slotted numerous foxes my first shot at roe with it was off a pair of borrowed limulus sticks at a young spikey cull buck at around 140 yds. witnessed by PKL on here
    It took three steps and dropped.
    Bullet went in exactly where planned, missed both shoulders, entered just behind the elbow, straight through, entry and exit of around 5 and 20p size
    huge destruction internally, massive blood loss.
    Very happy chappy.

    I have since taken roe with body shots between 30yds and 185yds. (that one was a little further away than I thought!)
    Only one neck shot to date, all the rest chest, avoiding spine and shoulder if possible, I don't aim for heart or spine as the buggers up the meat.
    Of the 40 odd deer with this calibre I have genuinely never had a deer run, the one above is the one that got the furthest
    all the rest drop...straight down!

    its hand of God material!
    can't explain it
    Desperately trying to get a video of this but so far I have run out of battery 5 secs before pulling trigger, forgot the SD card, forgot the camera, didn't have time to turn it on before the shot...... will get one eventually

    I use 60gr Hornady Soft points as I managed to get them to stabilise and they give much better downrange energy than 50-55gr
    heavy for calibre bullets in .222
    zeroed bang on at 100yds with 52gr Amax my rifle is 1" high with 60gr SP's - can't get better than that ( I was +1 and +2" until recently
    I get a effective zero of 175yds and am good for point and shoot to 230yds (250yds is 4.5", -300yds is -10")

    The .222 can be reloaded to produce accurate ammo with a hammer and a spoon it is that simple
    even the crappy loads were around an 1"-1.5" off sticks!

    only trying to push heavy for calibre bullets faster than needed did I get larger groups

    I use CCI400's and N133 as they are easy to get hold of.

    It is without doubt my favourite calibre by far.
    Last edited by bewsher500; 19-06-2014 at 11:48.

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    It is a very accurate caliber. I friend of mine has a CZ which shoots one tiny ragged hole. His wife uses it on deer, coyotes, and when they go elk hunting out West, they shoot prairie dogs with it.

    bewsher500,
    What rifle do you have in .222, and what is the twist rate?

    The 60, 62 and 64 grain hunting bullets from Winchester and Speer are as lethal as a .243 out of my AR-15 with 1:9 barrel, and very accurate.

    I just finished restoring a Savage 1899 saddle carbine in .22 Hi Power, and hope take a deer with it this Fall.
    Last edited by Southern; 19-06-2014 at 12:58.

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    Another vote for .222.

    I too was a little nervous with the first body shots on roe, but it turned out fine (this was with 55gr SPs).

    Not quite 'hand of god', but certainly no serious runners (furthest has been 10m). The one thing I've noticed is that, with a mod, it's so quiet that they react very differently to the shot - a flinch as if stung, then confused peering around for a second or two, a few hesitant steps, and then they roll over. Their friends stand there looking perplexed until they see you moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyR View Post
    Afternoon gents,
    I looking to get a .22CF for foxing and roe, mainly roe but only have experience with a 22-250, used a friends occasionaly.
    I use a .308win for Larger deer and just got rid of my .243 to move down to a .22CF.
    Fancy a .222 but unfamiliar with sensible ranges etc to be shooting roe at, so any feedback would be great.
    Cheers
    Are you ready for c500 pages??

    Cheers!

    K
    Ps: The 222 is a cracking little round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewsher500 View Post
    morning, an a little biased on this but have gone through the same as you
    I similarly ditched my .243 as a "one gun roe and fox rifle" the .222 works a treat
    Was nervous as hell with my first .222 roe as people had said...
    "oh they pencil if you dont get the bullet right",
    "they don't penetrate if you hit bone",
    "oh they always run",
    "oh they don't have enough energy for roe unless its short range"
    and the classic....."it's not a humane choice"

    Having slotted numerous foxes my first shot at roe with it was off a pair of borrowed limulus sticks at a young spikey cull buck at around 140 yds. witnessed by PKL on here
    It took three steps and dropped.
    Bullet went in exactly where planned, missed both shoulders, entered just behind the elbow, straight through, entry and exit of around 5 and 20p size
    huge destruction internally, massive blood loss.
    Very happy chappy.

    I have since taken roe with body shots between 30yds and 185yds. (that one was a little further away than I thought!)
    Only one neck shot to date, all the rest chest, avoiding spine and shoulder if possible, I don't aim for heart or spine as the buggers up the meat.
    Of the 40 odd deer with this calibre I have genuinely never had a deer run, the one above is the one that got the furthest

    all the rest drop...straight down!

    its hand of God material!
    can't explain it
    Desperately trying to get a video of this but so far I have run out of battery 5 secs before pulling trigger, forgot the SD card, forgot the camera, didn't have time to turn it on before the shot...... will get one eventually

    I use 60gr Hornady Soft points as I managed to get them to stabilise and they give much better downrange energy than 50-55gr
    heavy for calibre bullets in .222
    zeroed bang on at 100yds with 52gr Amax my rifle is 1" high with 60gr SP's - can't get better than that ( I was +1 and +2" until recently
    I get a effective zero of 175yds and am good for point and shoot to 230yds (250yds is 4.5", -300yds is -10")

    The .222 can be reloaded to produce accurate ammo with a hammer and a spoon it is that simple
    even the crappy loads were around an 1"-1.5" off sticks!

    only trying to push heavy for calibre bullets faster than needed did I get larger groups

    I use CCI400's and N133 as they are easy to get hold of.

    It is without doubt my favourite calibre by far.
    Difficult to explain to people who have never seen it,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern View Post
    bewsher500,
    What rifle do you have in .222, and what is the twist rate?

    Its a BRNO Fox Model 2 with a shortened circa 19-20" 1:14" barrel
    on paper it shouldn't stabilise 60gr bullets

    load testing groups shrank from 2-3" to a reasonable circa 3/4"-1" with 20.8gr N133
    its only when you get past that charge that the start spreading exponentially with each 0.2gr increment
    fine tuning OAL brought it down even more

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    I am thinking of trying the 50-gr Barnes in my 1:12 bolt action.

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