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Thread: 2 Piece Mounts or Picatinny / Weaver Rail ??

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    2 Piece Mounts or Picatinny / Weaver Rail ??

    Hi, i'm a newbie on here & have been given some good advice about what scope to put on my Remington 700 SPS. I would like some advice on wether to go for 2-piece mounts or a picatinny/weaver type rail? I understand the rail will give more range of scope placement but are there any other advantages / disadvantages I should be thinking about. Any advice gratefully received.
    Cheers Richard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickyd View Post
    Hi, i'm a newbie on here & have been given some good advice about what scope to put on my Remington 700 SPS. I would like some advice on wether to go for 2-piece mounts or a picatinny/weaver type rail? I understand the rail will give more range of scope placement but are there any other advantages / disadvantages I should be thinking about. Any advice gratefully received.
    Cheers Richard.
    A quality picatinny rail combined with mounts/rings with a good choice of heights (such as Recknagels) will give you a lot of flexibility as I've recently discovered but a pair of fitted mounts/rings is likely to be cheaper.

    Cheers

    Fizz

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    a rail will also stiffen up the action. What I would like to see is rifle manufacturers machining a full length rail into the action as standard.

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    I have seen on the internet that rails need to be 'bedded in'. I saw a couple of you tube videos where 'JB Weld' type epoxy resin is used to ensure there is a perfect fit to the action. I spoke to my local shop about it and he looked at me as if I was stupid!! Does this need to be done?? cheers

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    Rail is better in every respect but one; unless you have a detachable magazine installed it is slightly more fiddly to reload. For stalking that should not really be problematic.

    I have not used any glue or bedding compound on mine (700 BDL) and don't plan to.

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    I have ken Farrel rails on my remy's. I used epoxy to bed these on and just followed the instructions that came with the rails. Border barrels actually done one for me and they just done exactly the same. I have no loading issues with these rails, however the do add quite a bit of height to the mounted scope height.

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    Sorry, I should add that I have a regular weaver brand weaver rail for SA Rem 700. I have a LH action, and the rail is inlet to load and eject for a right hander. Not a big deal, but a little more fiddly. Well worth it though.

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    Unless you are using a rail with built in elevation, there is no real advantage over 2 piece Weaver / Warne slot bases on the Remington 700, because the top of the action is open, so you can only use one or two slots at the front and rear, if the loading area is cut back.

    On an action with a small port, like a Tikka T3, Steyr SBS, or Sauer, you can use the entire rail. For me, this is advantageous because I can remove the scope and snap on a red dot sight where I have no iron sight.

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    Concencus is that rail is better for reasons stated, also allows you to fit additional rings which RB in Vol 1 Foxing advises. Clearly you need to get correct length and correct height mounts to enable you to get scope mounted as close to barrel as possible.

    V impt to ensure rail is paralell to the action when you tighten it up.

    D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern View Post
    Unless you are using a rail with built in elevation, there is no real advantage over 2 piece Weaver / Warne slot bases on the Remington 700, because the top of the action is open, so you can only use one or two slots at the front and rear, if the loading area is cut back.
    Hi Southern, it's clear you know a lot more about firearms than I (and I have learnt a lot from many of your posts), but here I must either disagree, or admit that I don't quite understand what you are saying. Allow me to illustrate, this is how my rifle came to me, with two piece weaver style rings:
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    I could not get the scope forward by any more than the clearance between the dials and the front ring (about 3/4"), except by turning the front base through 180 degrees like so:
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    Even then the damn thing still thumped my eyebrow whenever I took a shot from prone. I was then limited by the location of the rear base, however once I'd fitted a rail it much, much easier to mount a scope (ironically, by this point I had lengthened the the stock, and therefore could probably have stuck with the scope mounting arrangement that I had).
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    I don't see why I couldn't or shouldn't use the slots towards the centre of the rail if that suited better scope placement for me. As I said, I'm probably missing something, but on the strength of my limited experience I would urge rail over two piece weaver bases.

    Guy

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