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    Severe Deer Damage!

    Forage maize planted under plastic early April, this is the picture today. Grazing by Red deer during summer months adjacent to thicket stage fir plantation. The grazed area is approx. 4.5 acres of the 12 acre field. This is Devon and given that "deer initiative" and NE say they have no out of season or night licences approved in SW England the system appears farcical. What do you say to the demented dairy farmer?
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    "Farmers Defence" !
    You may shoot deer that are caught in the act of damaging crops etc....PROVIDED...you have taken every possible precaution to prevent the damage from happening i.e. Deer fencing around the field or specifically along the problem boundary, crow scarers, shooing them away etc. If you can show that you have done everything possible to prevent the damage and it is still happening then you may use "extreme prejudice" to protect your crops.
    Unfortunately simply putting up a high seat in a corner of the field with a trillion candle lamp wont cut much ice!

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    Got to agree what has been tried this post is September and reds have been in since 1st of august. If shot off a crop they do not normally come back for a while. May I add if you start opening up England to the same sustained on slaughter as Scotland regards out of season and lamping you will need to take up a new passion/job as the case may be.

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    Start on the stags surely! Put some effort in if there causing damage. Unless they are completely nocturnal, you would still catch them in the first light though.

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    I would say don't grow Maize if you have lots of Red Deer in the locality. Stick to grass. Simples

  6. #6
    I took out a permit when we had 60 + fallow in a pea field every day. I could shoot any buck or follower during daylight hours and they didn't have to be in the pea field.
    The rule is if they are causing damage to any crop field including grass if it is harvested for hay/silage etc then as long as you have tried to stop them by chasing or what ever method then they can be legally shot.

    Put it this way, if this farmer/landowner mentions this damage to the wrong person you could end up losing your shoot as there are plenty of others who would jump at the chance of a bit of deer management and pay for the pleasure.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsettaff View Post
    "Farmers Defence" !
    You may shoot deer that are caught in the act of damaging crops etc....PROVIDED...you have taken every possible precaution to prevent the damage from happening i.e. Deer fencing around the field or specifically along the problem boundary, crow scarers, shooing them away etc. If you can show that you have done everything possible to prevent the damage and it is still happening then you may use "extreme prejudice" to protect your crops.
    You must also have written permission from the occupier of the land.

    It is worth reading the following as a summary:
    http://www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/u.../guides/91.pdf

    Plus the relevant sections of the Deer Act, because if you are considering relying on the Farmers Defence, it is just that, 'a defence'.

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    Are you sure it was deer. I never seen anything like that plenty of maize around and red deer they never touch it only when its nearly ready as do wild boar and then they do damage and eat ears but they never touch leaves and stalks as on these pictures


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    Quote Originally Posted by glogin View Post
    Are you sure it was deer. I never seen anything like that plenty of maize around and red deer they never touch it only when its nearly ready as do wild boar and then they do damage and eat ears but they never touch leaves and stalks as on these pictures
    Agree with this. Are there millions of clear foot prints from reds?

    more likely to be local pikey's at it during the night with homemade bush sears or something

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Oh6 View Post
    You must also have written permission from the occupier of the land.
    Of course I forgot the other option often used in South Dorset......

    Rock up in the middle of the night in a white transit or battered L200, preferably without tax, insurance or MOT, armed with an unlicensed firearm, or better, a couple of dogs and a shotgun. Round up/shoot/chase down what you need...bundle into the back of said truck and dispose of via an unscrupulous butcher/pub/hotel.

    No fear of detection, being apprehended or charged as Her Majesty's Finest will A/ Have a response time of 45-60 minutes (even though Force HQ is only down the road) and B/ Probably wont be ar*ed as it's a "victimless crime"!

    Heaven forbid I get caught doing 33mph down a country road whilst driving home.....with a legally held knife and rifle in the car, in cases, with certificates!!!

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