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    One for one Moderator

    I have an A-TEC Maxim 6.5 reflex moderator.
    It is no longer a 6.5 moderator but a rather ragged .30 moderator !!!
    I know the letter of the law states that I should dispose of the ragged one then apply for a variation to acquire another.
    But this is where, to me, common sense kicks in.
    The one I have is on my FC as an A-TEC Moderator with no identifying marks.
    The one I wish to replace it with will be identical.
    So all I would be doing to carry out this transaction, is creating paperwork, using up time and mileage going to my RFD for disposal then the Police licencing office for my variation and then back to my RFD for the replacement, then notification of the transaction to the Police licencing office, by E Mail.
    I cannot see why an RFD cannot be trusted to check my authority to hold and, as long as it is being replaced by an identical model, just take the old moderator and sell me the new one.
    Until such times as moderators are identified with serial numbers, I do not see why BASC or any other shooting related organisation, could not raise this issue at their next meeting with ACPO or better still, do away with all this nonsense involving what is really just a pipe.

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    Old post I know, but it's a pain right enough. I just had my FAC back after a variation, & noticed that my .30cal mod' wasn't on it. I just called to check & it turned out they have no record of it at all, despite it being purchased from the RFD in June of 2013

    FEO was fine about it, so I just need to send back my ticket & a letter informing them of the details, but it does highlight the daftness of why moderators are treated as S1 items. After all, a rifle without a moderator is still a rifle..........a moderator without a rifle is, well, a 'pipe'. Seems especially daft with regard to the likes of the SAK, that can be purchased for use with an air rifle off-ticket, but needs to be authorised and ticketed for use on a rimfire.

    Still, it's a requirement all the same, for the time being anyway. I did hear a rumour that moderators were going to be taken off-ticket, but not heard anything for a while. Anyone else heard similar?

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    Another incidence of 'Moderator Madness'
    I was using my moderator on the zeroing range at Bisley and just before I packed up for the day I put it on a coat hook to cool before packing it last.
    Yep, you guessed it, I forgot it and left. It wasn't until I got home, some sixty miles, that I realised I had left it there.
    I contacted the office at Bisley and described what it was and where and asked them to see if it was still there and yes it was, so asked if they could send it to me to save another 120 mile round trip.
    No, I had to go and collect it from them as now it was found by them it was now entered on their Firearms register !
    What a carry on. It was obviously mine as I had described it and where it was.
    I could not see any common sense reason why it could not be posted to me other than this rather strange law classing moderators as the same as a Firearm.
    The sooner one of our Organisations gets a grip of the rather strange law the better.

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    Strange you have trouble with this my FAC just says sound moderator to fit (calibre) over the last year or two I have changed from the old heavy T8's to hardys and just took the T8 in and walked out the shop with exchange one no paperwork involved!!(except showing my FAC to the shop.)

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by roedeerred View Post
    Strange you have trouble with this my FAC just says sound moderator to fit (calibre) over the last year or two I have changed from the old heavy T8's to hardys and just took the T8 in and walked out the shop with exchange one no paperwork involved!!(except showing my FAC to the shop.)
    I'm sure you're forgetting the one for one variation you must have done (as to not have done one would be illegal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by roedeerred View Post
    Strange you have trouble with this my FAC just says sound moderator to fit (calibre) over the last year or two I have changed from the old heavy T8's to hardys and just took the T8 in and walked out the shop with exchange one no paperwork involved!!(except showing my FAC to the shop.)
    Sounds ideal but if you did not miss out a bit about one for one swap in that perhaps don't put it on a forum. You never know who is watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackselby3000 View Post
    Sounds ideal but if you did not miss out a bit about one for one swap in that perhaps don't put it on a forum. You never know who is watching.
    ?? don't quite follow you exchange one is a one for one swop unless moderators are numbered same as guns if I exchange one then the number I own stays the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roedeerred View Post
    ?? don't quite follow you exchange one is a one for one swop unless moderators are numbered same as guns if I exchange one then the number I own stays the same.
    For it to be legal you should have notified your licensing office of the disposal of one moderator and sent in your FAC to have the authority to acquire another reinstated, then on reciept of your FAC with new authority to acquire you can get another mod.

    Ian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebeard View Post
    For it to be legal you should have notified your licensing office of the disposal of one moderator and sent in your FAC to have the authority to acquire another reinstated, then on reciept of your FAC with new authority to acquire you can get another mod.

    Ian.
    Yet you can take your Ruger 10-22 to your local RFD and have him fit a replacement barrel without the need for a variation?????

    Ian.

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    Lets face it, the whole firearms act 1968 needs to be reviewed and not just in respect of moderators. Assuming you have the necessary good reason and land, we should be permitted to possess a certain number of rifles up to a specfied calibre without need for further approval or variation. Any changes then just become an admin excercise, much like a shotgun certificate.

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