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Thread: Using iron sights?

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    Using iron sights?

    Is it a practical consideration up to say 120m? Does anyone use them on their primary rifle? I am wondering what the real life limitations might be, rather than the ones I can imagine.

    both my huskys have iron sights and I only have one set of mounts between them. I like the idea of one being open sighted, but only having air gunned like that I am not sure what to expect.


    thanks in advance

    will

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    I suppose the obvious limitation will be at first and last light, where a decent scope will still allow you to see a lot more clearly. How much of a problem this is depends on how much pressure you are under to meet your cull targets.

    Beyond the low light issue, if you can shoot it accurately then you've just saved yourself a lot of weight to be carrying round.

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    The limitations of iron sights is more to do with the limitations of the shooter than the sights themselves. That's not to say that scopes don't provide a significant advantage in reduced light situations in which most of us stalk if woodland stalking.
    Why don't you get some practise in on the range and see how you get on, you may be very pleasantly surprised. With good open sights and reasonable light conditions shots out to at least 150 yards should be a doddle or at least acceptable.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    also remember there is a big difference aiming at a nice big black circle on a clean white background and getting a sub 4" group in the middle (and unless peep sights your probably not actually aiming at where the bullets hit )

    and picking out the right spot on a large brown blob

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    That's where the need for practise comes in. Shooting at a large black circle, if that's the target that you choose, or a large brown blob is no different. Unless you have your sights offset for some reason or misaligned your bullets should be striking where you aim.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FGYT View Post
    also remember there is a big difference aiming at a nice big black circle on a clean white background and getting a sub 4" group in the middle (and unless peep sights your probably not actually aiming at where the bullets hit )

    and picking out the right spot on a large brown blob
    Well that's the bit I was thinking would be the issue. It is a big attraction that once you know the sights, you know they won't need re zeroing (ie you can't) and remain true to where the bullet went last time.

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    I used iron sights as a stalker many years ago. As stated anything up to 150 should be dead. However it is a skill, usually learned from air rifle shooting. The fore sight into back sight has to be spot on. It has to be adjusted for range. It is not a simple case for line up and pull trigger. a red deer standing in turning bracken through an iron sight while trying to hold a deer outline at 100 yards is not as simple as you think. I love iron sights but I would not go back to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essexsussex View Post
    Well that's the bit I was thinking would be the issue. It is a big attraction that once you know the sights, you know they won't need re zeroing (ie you can't) and remain true to where the bullet went last time.
    bollox. Iron sights need zeroing just as much as scope. They are less prone than scope to movement, but they can alter with knocks, loads, weights, ware, and general abuse. Elevation is pretty well fixed. That is where amount of fore in back sight has to be known. But side shift is common.

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    We'll there we go, learned something again on here! I hadn't really paid much attention to the iron sights before but thinking about it they probably do have a side to side adjustment. Shows the error of assumption. Hopefully they'll suffer fewer knocks though.
    Last edited by Essexsussex; 03-10-2014 at 09:25.

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    I done a experiment a few years ago with a group of friends of varying ages and experience. I placed targets at 50 meters and everyone shot using my .22lr with open sights. I then fitted a cheap 6x scope. After zeroing, everyone had another go at shooting a target. On average the group sizes halved. Draw your own conclusions.

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