Would have to agree with what's been said, quality just isn't there to justify anything close to the price tag, i do still think they are the most comfortable though, so I recently bought the vierzonord for 140 posted from CCW clothing but I can't for the life of me work out why they thought it was a good idea to put a rubber pad at the base of the heel which I'm sure was supposed to be there to stop your heel slipping, but all it does is grip on your socks and pull them off your feet, and then, when you get a bit sweaty, they squeek and squelch as your heel slips on them......great design, well done! Last pair for me!