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    Shot site guidance

    Please take a little time to read the stalkers shot site information on the home page of our web site,
    it may soon become best practice,

    UKDTR

    Regards Tony
    Last edited by cookingfat; 24-10-2014 at 08:31.

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    Over here they discourage this unless you are certain that the deer is fatally wounded, as it can cause a wounded deer to take flight again.


    • Have you made an intensive search for the animal and/or has a dog already been used to try to find it?


    I imagine the difference is due to the fact that there are many more registered deer tracker teams in Denmark than the UK?

    Just for comparison, here is a (badly) translated version of the Danish site.

    Google Translate

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    I'm not sure TT, but the article doesn't seem to suggest you should have already used a dog etc etc, it's maybe asking if you have so the tracking team would know if the deer might have been pushed further on by a search?

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    Good point Mike, I hadn't thought of it that way.

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    Up here it`s one of the criteria ,to be allowed to stalk Roe deer and bigger game, to have a deal with one who has a approved tracking dog and that he can be on the site you shot in a reasonable time after the shot. It`s a very good initiative you guys are working on.

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    Very good that we are working on the same European standard that UKSHA has adopted for a long time now.
    Especially as just a year ago we could not agree on how best to follow up on wounded animals,shows that some people are willing to listen and learn.I remember when some would say you need to rush in on a wounded animal-that has changed and people are listening.
    Also shows how similar the thoughts are after being taught.
    All good for recovering the wounded animals.

    Had a look back at some old private messages.....makes very very interesting reading,lol....
    Last edited by Wolverine; 24-10-2014 at 11:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Very good that we are working on the same European standard that UKSHA has adopted for a long time now.
    Especially as just a year ago we could not agree on how best to follow up on wounded animals,shows that some people are willing to listen and learn.I remember when some would say you need to rush in on a wounded animal-that has changed and people are listening.
    Also shows how similar the thoughts are after being taught.
    All good for recovering the wounded animals.

    Had a look back at some old private messages.....makes very very interesting reading,lol....
    Yes your right George,
    After all this is and had been common practice for a long time all over Europe.
    We are not doing nothing new
    it's not like any body's trying to re - invent the wheel.

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    Yes your right George,
    After all this is and had been common practice for a long time all over Europe.
    We are not doing nothing new
    it's not like any body's trying to re - invent the wheel.
    Tony^^^^^^^^

    Very good to know you are in agreement with that one standard that is recognised throughout Europe.
    Like you say.....absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel.....
    Last edited by Wolverine; 24-10-2014 at 13:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
    Very good to know you are in agreement with that one standard that is recognised throughout Europe.
    Like you say.....absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel.....
    George,
    this has nothing to do with standards of recognition it's about us here in the UK giving stalkers the information that they may require should things go wrong.
    The point I was making is that this information has been around for a very long time, tracking dogs here have only been available to stalkers for a short time, so stalkers need to know what we all may require of them should they ever need our services.

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    Tony we wrote a post which is still a sticky on here and on FB. we felt this needed to update best practice to help deer stalkers across the uk, we sent emails asking to change BP.
    Richard evans sent me messages to change what we had wrote because you UKDTR felt that the timescales were not realistic. we refused to alter knowing that these times are for the benefit of wounded animals and the recovery or dispatch of these beasts.
    We have been asked to share our knowledge but for you to gain credence in what you are trying to achieve.
    we are working for the benefit of wounded deer by sending out the team with the most chance of success, can you please explain why the sudden change in how to follow up on an animal and why you feel it necessary to re hash a document already in circulation to aid the recovery but also to start from the shot site which is the key to starting the follow up process.


    • Conversation started 31 May

    • 31/05/2014 21:59
      Richard Arthur EvansHi Wayne I have read your post on shot site and follow up But I feel you need to edit sections to come into line with reality Have no idea how many deer you have followed up on So not judging on that But 200 metres for a leg shot fallow is no distance at all Let alone red either Or light brisket /jaw shot Even spined Stick with fallow here as that is a main species for down south Fallow being herd species often will follow the rest if the group So 2-3 mile is not an issue even with reds So waiting 12-24 hours in areas of which I shoot Will mean a non recovery How is that exceptable Fallow may travell over many different boundaries with in a few hours let al









    • 31/05/2014 22:08
      Richard Arthur EvansLet alone a night Even roe bucks that are carrying an injury can be pushed miles from pillar to post by other bucks at certain times of year How can you ensure a successful recovery if you are not able to follow it legally Agreed the longer the better in some cases But not if the deer you have travels miles where you are not able to follow When pushing the deer or following up instantly can put herding deer on guard and create them to mill up instead of running So a telling shot can be made at the time Nothing is perfect But we should be realistic surely








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