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    Reds in Devon

    Hi there,
    just want to ask peoples opinion about shooting hinds and leaving calves in a mild climate like Devon. This is mid-devon to not Exmoor. I can't see any reason to shoot the calves that are already weaned and will mod up with the other hinds for the winter.
    I did a season on the hill in Scotland and there I could see why it was standard proceedure to shoot the calve with the hind. On my BDS DSC1 in Devon last year they said to cull the calves. Most deer farms seem to wean the calves by the time of the runt, so I can't understand why you need to cull calves when there is loads of food arround in a mild climate

    Opinions would be apprecaited!

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    There was a study recently done which was published in deer magazine confirming that calves that were orphaned in their first year of life did not do as well as those that weren't. If memory serves me correctly, their body weights remained below average for the first few years of their lives. Is this a good enough reason for not shooting them first at this time of year? Only you can make that decision.
    For the record, in my deer management group, we routinely shoot the calves first until mid-December.

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    whack into them , the calfs you leave will be breeding in the next rut so i wouldnt worry about it just get on with it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by leec6.5 View Post
    whack into them , the calfs you leave will be breeding in the next rut so i wouldnt worry about it just get on with it !
    Thanks Lee i will try that!
    Cheers
    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by leec6.5 View Post
    whack into them , the calfs you leave will be breeding in the next rut so i wouldnt worry about it just get on with it !
    Imho this isn't necessarily true as should the calf not reach optimum weight/condition due to being orphaned then it possibly won't concive
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    Jimmy
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    Quote Originally Posted by devon deer stalker View Post
    Thanks Lee i will try that!
    Cheers
    Richard
    Richard ,

    When i am in culling mode and numbers matter i do not worry about what i shoot first , hind or calf its all the same to me!

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    Oh well and I thought it was all about deer welfare !!!
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    Sometimes numbers matter as a consequence for deer welfare Jimmy....
    Whats the hind season in England Jimmy?

    If any welfare issue was apparent would that season be in place or would it be later????

    Deer welfare indeed......

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    Hi George
    On a welfare issue I would shoot the calf first and then the hind if the chance presented itself
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    Jimmy
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    What's the season Jimmy?
    Perhaps numbers need taking down,then the hind is the first.

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