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    Countryside Alliance - Ever ready to sell out shooting...again!

    I've posted this on the latest "BASC bashing" thread. But I'll post it here too:

    Countryside Alliance this, Countryside Alliance that. Well listen to BBC iPlayer for "Newsnight" of 18 November for what the CA says about shooting:

    BBC iPlayer - Newsnight - 18/11/2014

    41 minutes in. This from Anne Mallalieu President of the Countryside Alliance: "Nobody gives a thought about the suffering of foxes....what's actually happened to the foxes...because of the growth of commercial shooting...foxes are being shot at night by lampers...people with bright lights shooting them with guns.."

    So do people here still really have this nonsensical idea that the CA is something that it is not? A friend of shooting? You're having a laugh!

    It is in reality nothing more than the the old British Field Sports Society - a houndsports lobby - under another guise? And that, yet again, shooting is thrown up as "the villain" of the piece?

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    I am a member of BASC but correct me if i am wrong, the countryside alliance just got ACPO to drop the dedicated firearms snitch line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholiath View Post
    I am a member of BASC but correct me if i am wrong, the countryside alliance just got ACPO to drop the dedicated firearms snitch line.
    Dont let the facts get in the way of a good rant!

    The CA covers all Fieldsports, which means sometimes conflicts occur....just as with the sports themselves.
    O wad some Power the giftie gie us to see oursels as ithers see us!

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    Well I have to agree with her, everyday on this web site we here people banging on about deer being shot while pregnant, orphans being left to struggle through the winter, all shots should be humane,night shooting etc etc, but when it comes to fox shooting, anything goes, most shooters are just a bunch of hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholiath View Post
    I am a member of BASC but correct me if i am wrong, the countryside alliance just got ACPO to drop the dedicated firearms snitch line.
    Yes they did while basc did nothing
    Last edited by jimbo1984; 19-11-2014 at 09:01.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    Well I have to agree with her, everyday on this web site we here people banging on about deer being shot while pregnant, orphans being left to struggle through the winter, all shots should be humane,night shooting etc etc, but when it comes to fox shooting, anything goes, most shooters are just a bunch of hypocrites.

    I dont like shooting anything I cant eat except rats. I shoot rats because of the dammage they do to my house and the stuff in my sheads. If they left me alone id leave them alone

    I dont particularly like shoting foxes. They do me no harm and I think they are one of the UKs more atractive anamals

    However the land we have permision to shoot is owned by a farmer who has sheep and the foxes cause him problems and we are expected to keep the fox population down as part of our deal.

    As theres no meet issue we use balistic tip and just shoot them any which way we can.

    As with deer when they become a pest we can thermal image, night vision and lamp

    Its just pest control

    Fox hunting with hounds is not my cup of tea. I used to ride and did drags back in the day and they were great fun. I can see the attraction of the hunt but I do feel chasing a fox into submision and having it ripped apart by dogs is not in any way a humain dispatch

    I am torn betwen something thats part of british culture and concern for the anamal

    I err on the side of pro hunting with hounds but its a tough one to reconcile

    Guns are a very emotive issue and there will always be an anti gun anti hunting lobby

    My responce is, if you eat meet shut the hell up as just because your meet comes celephane wraped dosent make its death any more pleasent

    Id also say OK ban guns and we will hunt with crossbows and bows.

    and IMHO that will greatly increase the suffering of the beast due to mis placed shots

    ATB

    Chasey

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    As a sheep farmer and someone who has witnessed and photgraphed a fox killing a lamb, and shot foxes and hunted them on foot and horse, organised driven fox shoots, but shooting foxes just because you can , which is what most shooters do is not fox control.
    As to hunting with a bow, I do that as well and it is far more humane, as bow hunters tend to only take the shot when all the conditions are right, so your opinion doe,s not really hold water.
    Last edited by Taff; 19-11-2014 at 08:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    As to hunting with a bow, I do that as well and it is far more humane, as bow hunters tend to only take the shot when all the conditions are right, so your opinion doe,s not really hold water.
    Rifle shooters do that as well don't they?

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    I think you are getting off topic here. The original question was regarding the Countryside Alliances chairwoman sticking up for fox hunting with hounds and deriding shooting foxes, in particular lamping. Yes, people shooting foxes should take as much care about well placed shots as with deer and yes there are those who shoot who don't care a bit about foxes suffering from casual shots or shooting vixens in spring when cubs are about but the question is do the CA really represent us all in the country or is it just a fox hunting (hounds) social club which just takes along shooting, stalking and fishing to make it look good?
    i am a member of the CA, BASC and British Deer Society. After Newsnight my CA membership is questionable.
    Last edited by Harry Hirsch; 19-11-2014 at 08:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    As a sheep farmer and someone who has witnessed and photgraphed a fox killing a lamb, and shot foxes and hunted them on foot and horse, organised driven fox shoots, but shooting foxes just because you can , which is what most shooters do is not fox control.
    As to hunting with a bow, I do that as well and it is far more humane, as bow hunters tend to only take the shot when all the conditions are right, so your opinion doe,s not really hold water.
    Morning. have been having an argument with an anti who says there is no evidence that foxes kill lambs. Whilst I (and every sane person) knows that this is bollox I have no evidence. Do you have any photos or vid of such a thing?

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