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    Not the best reading!

    Just having a flick through the basc mag, looking at firing lines "letters " page, it seems that we are getting some more new laws from plod............... such as phoneing in to let them know you will be shooting, where , when etc.............although this is something that I myself will do on specific problem areas, there is no legal requirement to do so.
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnbear270 View Post
    Just having a flick through the basc mag, looking at firing lines "letters " page, it seems that we are getting some more new laws from plod............... such as phoneing in to let them know you will be shooting, where , when etc.............although this is something that I myself will do on specific problem areas, there is no legal requirement to do so.
    Real laws or more of their makey-up ones? I don't get the mag so can you say if BASC have commented?

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    Just the usual do as I say, not as I do laws!.........as it's in the basc mag with no footnote, it's possible that they are leaning that way ?...........David BASC.What say you sir?
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    I can't speak for David @ BASC but seem to recall that he posted some time back opposing the need to inform police of your intention to be shooting on ground.

    My position on the matter is that we need less restriction and not more but that I find keeping the police informed works well. Here in Northern Ireland there is a condition on the FAC which says that police must be informed by phone before you go shooting. I always do this and to date can see no down side to it, they appear to understand that I am recording my intentions for their information and that they have no say on whether I can or can't go and in one area where I stalk we have a very good working relationship with the local police with an aim to reduce poaching etc.

    In principle I am opposed to any restrictions upon us, especially ones with no foundation in law, but in practise it doesn't cause me any problems at all and so I can see no reason to strongly oppose it. With this in mind I view informing the police as a matter of good practise, being a good neighbour if you like, to make both our lives easier and to date all my contact with the police in relation to my shooting has been positive and constructive.

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    Maybe you have a different breed of plod over there, over here once something is initiated , it's taken for granted, no exceptions, wether it is correct in law or otherwise, I congratulate you on your commonsense working relationship. Steve.
    (The Unspeakable In Pursuit Of The Uneatable.) " If I can help, I will help!." Former S.A.C.S. member!

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    I think the key thing is that in N Ireland anything to do with firearms has been approached in a different manner from the rest of the UK - for obvious reasons given the recent history? If it's already conditioned on the FAC then you have little option to comply or risk the consequences:

    "Here in Northern Ireland there is a condition on the FAC which says that police must be informed by phone before you go shooting".

    If it's allowed to be introduced on the mainland UK without question then I agree, it is likely to become the accepted norm by 'creep' unless challenged from the off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caorach View Post
    Here in Northern Ireland there is a condition on the FAC which says that police must be informed by phone before you go shooting.
    I suspect it is because over the years in NI a number of legitimate shooters have ended up very dead as a result of bumping in to military patrols.

    It'll happen over here one day and we will then have a plethora of new rules for our protection.

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    That is not entirely accurate.

    There has never been, and there is not now any general requirement to pre-inform the peelers of your intention to shoot in NI.

    However, there used to be a specific requirement for FAC holders with a deer legal calibre to give 24 hours notice of an intended "deer cull" to the local peelers. This was precisely for the reason stated above, you don't want to bump into a covert military patrol while seriously tooled up, and the local cops could give the nod to whoever may be operating in an area to look out for you. Friend of mine has a fantastic story, which would frighten the **** out of you, about creeping across a field on night about 1992, and shooting a fox at about 120 yards with a 22wmr. He stood up feeling pleased with himself, a voice from the "hedge" said "good shot there mate", a change of shorts was nearly required.

    Anyway, to my knowledge, certainly on my FAC and that of friends of mine, the 24 hour notice requirement is now long gone. In fact, PSNI have opened up lot over the past few years - for entirely cyncial reasons. Basically, my FAC states you can shoot wherever you think is safe, on your own head be-it.
    Brian.

    Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you......

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    Sounds as if caorach needs to get his FAC updated and the condition removed then!

    Good yarn BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret_Dabbler View Post
    Basically, my FAC states you can shoot wherever you think is safe, on your own head be-it.
    And you know you've got it wrong when the little red dot in your illuminated scope suddenly fragments into lots of little red dots that get really big, really quickly!

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