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    Pakistan/ death penalty

    In light of recent events in Pakistan the govt there has re_introduced the death penalty, your views please.

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    The death penalty is a vast ranging debate, possibly not really one for a deer stalking site. As far as this country goes, certainly whilst we are in Europe, it's a non starter. Back in the days when Parliament used to have regular votes on the subject, there was always a telling majority against it.

    As for Pakistan, I would suggest most of us are not well placed to know what people's views are there. But it appears that the death penalty, or indeed any other punishment for terrorists is a tad academic as the terrorists don't get to the point when they're arrested without being killed.

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    Support it 100% and believe it should be in every country. It may have been hit and miss in proving someone's guilt/innocence in the past and a lot of innocent people may have been executed who were 100% innocent but with today's technology it should be easy to prove someone's guilty.

    I suppose the next question then is was it intentional or not to cause a death but my answer would be if someone has gone tooled up, ie carrying a knife etc then they intend to use it regardless on whether it will kill or not.

    It was on the radio this morning that a gang of 13 year old kids stabbed and killed a man for whatever reason. One arrested and the others released. Why was a 13 year old carrying a knife? He has taken a life and so should now forfeit his,end of. Maybe if people knew there would be a death penalty facing them then they would think twice about violence and going out carrying a knife etc. Rant over

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    Do we not still have it if convicted of treason ??
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    I fundamentally do not and will never support the death penalty. It is a barbaric practice that should be confined to the annals of history, a long with corporal punishment.

    And as has been shown in places like the US, the only people who actually are executed are those who cannot afford a good defence, or are mentally unstable.

    And having the death penalty just will make martyres out of the fanatics.

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    I really should know better, but I just can't pretend not to have seen this.

    Quote Originally Posted by ELMER FUDD View Post
    It may have been hit and miss in proving someone's guilt/innocence in the past and a lot of innocent people may have been executed who were 100% innocent but with today's technology it should be easy to prove someone's guilty.
    If you're referring to DNA evidence, it is not infallible by any means, useful as it is. Usually, it just serves to indicate that someone was present somewhere, or in contact with something that was. There are false-positive results, and degrees of uncertainty involved, with matches rarely being perfect given the nature of the samples. So given all of that, would you still be willing to take a chance on killing someone based on DNA evidence?

    Quote Originally Posted by ELMER FUDD View Post
    Why was a 13 year old carrying a knife? He has taken a life and so should now forfeit his, end of. Maybe if people knew there would be a death penalty facing them then they would think twice about violence and going out carrying a knife etc. Rant over
    I don't know about you but I often carried a penknife when I was 13. I don't think I should have been imprisoned for it and I certainly shouldn't have been worried that I could be killed for it. More to the point though, you're advocating killing a child, for Christ's sake.

    As for Pakistan, what they have on their hands is really a civil war. The death penalty is a moot point, as someone has said before.

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    Corporal punishment should be brought back without any doubt, a good thrashing tends to focus the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy milnes View Post
    Do we not still have it if convicted of treason ??
    Regards
    Jimmy
    Since the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 became law, the maximum sentence for treason in the UK has been life imprisonment. copied from google...


    David

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    I fear that this thread will do nothing but discredit SD as inevitably it will end in tears. I would nip it in the bud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine Marten View Post
    I don't know about you but I often carried a penknife when I was 13. I don't think I should have been imprisoned for it and I certainly shouldn't have been worried that I could be killed for it.
    I don't suppose you stuck it in a man's chest, though?
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