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    Just saw this on the BBC - What is it?


    It looks to be an AR15-style 12g. The hand-guard shape suggests it's a pump-action, but the position of the barrel in the hand-guard gives the impression that there is a gas tube above the barrel. The stock is apparently of the folding type. The photo seems to originate from Central or South America (perhaps Brazil).

    Despite a bit of Googling, I can't so far identify it.

    So, gentlemen of the SD, I call on your aid once again!

    P.S. I know I should really be out shooting, but I have been struck down by that most manly of ailments, the common cold, so am bridging the time between visits from the nurse with firearms trivia.
    Last edited by Mr. Gain; 28-12-2014 at 11:36.
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    It looks like a Franchi spas 15 12 bore
    "a man does good business when he rids himself of a turd"

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    Quote Originally Posted by reiver View Post
    It looks like a Franchi spas 15 12 bore
    It isn't a SPAS and it isn't doesn't even look like a shotgun to me, more a 7.62 SLR though which one I'd have to verify. That looks like a duoble stack rifle magazine, not a shotgun magazine.
    Franchi SPAS-12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    -JMS
    Last edited by JMS906; 28-12-2014 at 12:47.

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    Piper Cub? Don't know my aeroplanes if i'm honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS906 View Post
    It isn't a SPAS and it isn't doesn't even look like a shotgun to me, more a 7.62 SLR though which one I'd have to verify. That looks like a duoble stack rifle magazine, not a shotgun magazine.
    Franchi SPAS-12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    -JMS
    He did say a Franchi SPAS-15 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and to be fair it does look rather like one, especially the forend. The barrel does look a bit slim, but the camera can lie, or at least mislead!

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    not a spas for def,not even a shotgun.dodgy chinese/russian assult rifle

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    Quote Originally Posted by longhair View Post
    not a spas for def,not even a shotgun.dodgy chinese/russian assult rifle
    Maybe so.
    Yet, I wonder why the Russians and/or Chinese would they base an assualt-rifle on a copy of an Italian shotgun, right down to the long bridge over the receiver and the red writing on the mag? Why would they include the peculiar forend designed for pump-action use?
    Last edited by Dalua; 28-12-2014 at 13:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalua View Post
    Maybe so.
    I wonder why the Russians and/or Chinese would they base an assualt-rifle on a copy of an Italian shotgun, right down to the long bridge over the receiver and the red writing on the mag? Why would they include the peculiar forend designed for pump-action use?
    It does look strikingly similar to a SPAS 15 http://www.taringa.net/comunidades/a...i-SPAS-15.html

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    spas 15 12g nowt like the old spas a lot lighter and don't punch the shooter as much

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    Quote Originally Posted by reiver View Post
    It looks like a Franchi spas 15 12 bore
    correct I've used one of these..bit pointless given mag cap.

    for the 'its not a spas' brigade
    ....look at spas12.com and checkout the related spas15 ...then say it isn't a spas 15

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