After some good advice from people who have been there before, (with thanks to SD) I now have some cases to pull the bullets from, & recover the powder, then I'll fireform to shoot off the magnum primers fitted to the cases, So the manufacturers advice is just that, "Advice" spherical powders need magnum primers to ignite properly...not! (in this case), Ah well!........ keeps you from getting into bother doesn't it!...funny how you can get engrossed in this reloading thing, even when you thought you'd found the buffers! Steve.