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    Reloading .22 Hornet with H4895

    As the title really. I would like to reload .22 Hornet with H4895 for it's ability to load down. I have seen a reference (cannot remember where though) to reloading .17 with this powder but cannot find any starting loads online. I currently use this powder successfully in my .222 Remington. If anyone can make any suggestions I would be grateful, Thanks.

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    I have no help for you there, Amigo. I would look to Alliant 2400. ~Muir

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    Hi forget it get hodgdon lilgun that is the be all in the 22 hornet. Just source lilgun & you won't go wrong.

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    Hi,I have never tried H4895 in my .222, I just stick with BLC2. I used to load 11.25 gr of 4227 with a 50gr SP for about 2500fps in a modern Ruger 77, that was a very accurate load for me,11.5gr accuracy dropped off badly, as for lighter bullets, I never found I could reload them at all with these powders, maybe lilgun is the answer, or maybe 2400, it works well in a .44 mag carbine.
    Just out of interest why would you want to load down the lowest capacity .22CF calibre with a slow bulky powder anyway? max load is only about 12 gr with the correct powder.

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    I think his aim is to load down his Hornet, and H4895 is widely known for reduced loads- just not in a Hornet. Alliant 2400 is a good powder for reduced velocity jacketed bullet loads in a Hornet. The kicker is that most jacketed bullets will cease to expand if the speed gets too low. For reduced loads in the Hornet, in the 22LR and 22WMR class, I use cast bullets..~Muir

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    H4895 is an unsuitable powder for the Hornet. It is too bulky and far too slow burning. If you try it, a case stuffed full of this powder under a 40 or 45gn bullet will still only generate something a bit below 20,000 psi pressures and will see a large part of the charge remain unburned as even H4895 doesn't work well at this level. This in turn gives two results - a filthy barrel and most likely chamber; very large pressure and velocity variations.

    You are confusing two things here - suitable powders for a tiny case cartrtidge like the Hornet, and Hodgdon advising H4895's suitability for 'youth loads' and similar in larger cased cartridges like 243, 308 etc.

    (For those unfmailiar with light loads data using H4895, it's shown here: https://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/H4895%20...le%20Loads.pdf )

    Although these 'youth loads' work, my experience is that they're very dirty burners as it takes more than the 30-35,000 psi pressures they produce to get this and most 'general-purpose' smokeless rifle powders to burn cleanly and 100% consistently.

    The .22 Hornet needs powders developed primarily for magnum handgun cartridges and the .410 shotgun to operate properly - Alliant 2400 (the original 1930s Hornet propellant); H110 (.30 Carbine originally); Hodgdon L'il Gun (a 410 powder); Viht N110 and similar.

    If you really must have a low velocity gallery rifle / quasi indoor load for the cartridge look at the fast-burning super bulky powders introduced for US Cowboy Action Shooting loads - Viht N32C 'Tin Star', and IMR Trail Boss. 4 or 5gn charges nearly fill the Hornet case and give a 100% clean charge burn.
    Last edited by Laurie; 29-12-2014 at 23:49.

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    Really enjoy your posts Laurie....Cheers !

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    Laurie has put it well for you. As I say get lilgun its the stuff 13g with 35g v-max or my favourite is 45g Speer sp with 13g lilgun & a cci pistol primer done. As for recoil it has none my 7yrs old son shoots my hornet & loves it can shoot rabbits out to 150m with my cz527 hornet. Gave him ago at a 400yrd 10" gone with my 6.5x47 & hit that first round no other too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v-max View Post
    Laurie has put it well for you. As I say get lilgun its the stuff 13g with 35g v-max or my favourite is 45g Speer sp with 13g lilgun & a cci pistol primer done. As for recoil it has none my 7yrs old son shoots my hornet & loves it can shoot rabbits out to 150m with my cz527 hornet. Gave him ago at a 400yrd 10" gone with my 6.5x47 & hit that first round no other too.
    Not to jump off the topic rails but are you still finding 35 grain VM in the UK? They are gone here, "production temporarily suspended" by the company that still claims they are running their machines 24-7 and it's "business as usual" for them. (my ass) (rant over) ~Muir

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